Arty, do you think the Magic can win fifty games?

[elartman1973]

Bla bla bla...hrs barely even breaking a sweat out there

Maybe if he broke a sweat, he wouldn't be below-average in shooting efficiency, despite playing on a "super-loaded team".

He's not

[elartman1973]

When you have 20 more possession than your opponent....the offens raning is irrelevent as can be.

No it isn't.

And you didn't say the Magic's offense was "somewhat below-average but they make up for it in steals/offensive rebounding and extra chances", you said it was elite. Their offense is clearly not elite.

19th in points/possession
19th in points/game
27th in 3pt percentage
28th in 3pt makes
23rd in FT percentage

And the Magic have gotten up fewer than three more FGAs a game than their opponents (+49 over 17 games).

You're so triggered.

Scoring is not an issue
Watch a game

[Bush4Ever.]

Magic go 12 deep. Everyone scores. They dobt rely on his scoring. His playmaker has been impressive...but you wouldn't know since you rely on irrelevent numbers

"Everyone eats" offenses (19th in the league, mind) can explain why someone doesn't score in volume that much, but it doesn't address why the guy is not particularly efficient with the shots/chances he does get.

[elartman1973]

Magic go 12 deep. Everyone scores. They dobt rely on his scoring. His playmaker has been impressive...but you wouldn't know since you rely on irrelevent numbers

"Everyone eats" offenses (19th in the league, mind) can explain why someone doesn't score in volume that much, but it doesn't address why the guy is not particularly efficient with the shots/chances he does get.

45% from 3 is " inefficient" now

[Bush4Ever.]

He's not

His TS+ (because of 2s and 1s) is 99.

That's below-average, basically average.

If he's average efficiency on a super-loaded team, that means his true ability efficiency-wise at present is probably a bit below-average.

[elartman1973]

He's not

His TS+ (because of 2s and 1s) is 99.

That's below-average, basically average.

If he's average efficiency on a super-loaded team, that means his true ability efficiency-wise at present is probably a bit below-average.

You're scrambling guy. Give it a rest. He's solid and getting better and better. Gets to the line 7 times a game too. He's a sophomore and you act like he's in his prime. He just turned 21 last week.
He's a superstar in the making.
Watch a game not bits and pieces and highlights. He's very unselfish. Team first and focused on D now.
Smh

Suggs and Isaac are the 2 headed snake

[Bush4Ever.]

You're scrambling guy. Give it a rest. He's solid and getting better and better. Gets to the line 7 times a game too. He's a sophomore and you act like he's in his prime. He just turned 21 last week

No one is scrambling tubs. I already have said (before this season), I think he'll eventually be a regular all-star caliber player.

But he's definitely not a top 50 player in the NBA *today*. He's arguably not a top 100 player.

When he starts peaking, that's when the leaves for LA or another premium franchise.

[Sudanese Sensation]

You're scrambling guy. Give it a rest. He's solid and getting better and better. Gets to the line 7 times a game too. He's a sophomore and you act like he's in his prime. He just turned 21 last week

No one is scrambling tubs. I already have said (before this season), I think he'll eventually be a regular all-star caliber player.

But he's definitely not a top 50 player in the NBA *today*. He's arguably not a top 100 player.

When he starts peaking, that's when the leaves for LA or another premium franchise.

What player do you think he will be similar to when he reaches his peak?

[elartman1973]

You're scrambling guy. Give it a rest. He's solid and getting better and better. Gets to the line 7 times a game too. He's a sophomore and you act like he's in his prime. He just turned 21 last week

No one is scrambling tubs. I already have said (before this season), I think he'll eventually be a regular all-star caliber player.

But he's definitely not a top 50 player in the NBA *today*. He's arguably not a top 100 player.

When he starts peaking, that's when the leaves for LA or another premium franchise.

Lol.. yes he is you idiot. And he's not going anywhere. Stop living in the past. Those days are long gone and not even really a thing...2 players over 35 years...smh
He's not that kind of player. These guys don't draft those types...
Look at siakim, and giannis...same guys drafted them.
He has no reason to go anywhere and he's not even the heart and soul of the team.

[elartman1973]

You're scrambling guy. Give it a rest. He's solid and getting better and better. Gets to the line 7 times a game too. He's a sophomore and you act like he's in his prime. He just turned 21 last week

No one is scrambling tubs. I already have said (before this season), I think he'll eventually be a regular all-star caliber player.

But he's definitely not a top 50 player in the NBA *today*. He's arguably not a top 100 player.

When he starts peaking, that's when the leaves for LA or another premium franchise.

What player do you think he will be similar to when he reaches his peak?

Melo/lebron hybrid

[Titan18]

Arty manhandling Bush here. It’s been tough to watch.

[Bush4Ever.]

Lol.. yes he is you idiot. And he's not going anywhere. Stop living in the past. Those days are long gone and not even really a thing...2 players over 35 years...smh
He's not that kind of player. These guys don't draft those types...
Look at siakim, and giannis...same guys drafted them.
He has no reason to go anywhere and he's not even the heart and soul of the team.

He's 69th this year in PER, and not some sort of crazy impact player on defense.

You've only had two legit Tier-1 superstars (superstars who can swing a team to major winning through their own efforts) in 35 years.

They both went to LA.

lol

[elartman1973]

Lol.. yes he is you idiot. And he's not going anywhere. Stop living in the past. Those days are long gone and not even really a thing...2 players over 35 years...smh
He's not that kind of player. These guys don't draft those types...
Look at siakim, and giannis...same guys drafted them.
He has no reason to go anywhere and he's not even the heart and soul of the team.

He's 69th this year in PER, and not some sort of crazy impact player on defense.

You've only had two legit Tier-1 superstars (superstars who can swing a team to major winning through their own efforts) in 35 years.

They both went to LA.

lol

Per...lol




And tmac wasn't a superstar?
Dwight was washed up dumbass.and acting like tgey were one man teams proves your stupidity...the magic were still playoff teams the very next season after they left

Wrong eras wrong front office totally wrong type of player. There's more proving you wrong than anything

Shaq and Dwight grew up Laker homers

Paolo didn't

Get a clue and stop being desperate

[Bush4Ever.]

Dwight was washed up dumbass.and acting like tgey were one man teams proves your stupidity...the magic were still playoff teams the very next season after they left

Wrong eras wrong front office totally wrong type of player. There's more proving you wrong than anything

Shaq and Dwight grew up Laker homers

Paolo didn't

Get a clue and stop being desperate

[elartman1973]

Dwight was washed up dumbass.and acting like tgey were one man teams proves your stupidity...the magic were still playoff teams the very next season after they left

Wrong eras wrong front office totally wrong type of player. There's more proving you wrong than anything

Shaq and Dwight grew up Laker homers

Paolo didn't

Get a clue and stop being desperate

Why would he go to a mess of a team with no future?

You're so desperate and this is the best you can do


Sad

[Bush4Ever.]

Why would he go to a mess of a team with no future?

You're so desperate and this is the best you can do
Sad

Like I said earlier, it's not Lakers vs. Magic, it's the city of LA vs. the hamlet of Orlando.

If Orlando had *any* spark as a city/hamlet/town it might be a little bit different.

But alas...

[elartman1973]

Why would he go to a mess of a team with no future?

You're so desperate and this is the best you can do
Sad

Like I said earlier, it's not Lakers vs. Magic, it's the city of LA vs. the hamlet of Orlando.

If Orlando had *any* spark as a city/hamlet/town it might be a little bit different.

But alas...

Orlando is great has countless things going on at all times...stop acting like its a dead city like charlotte or columbus when its one of the most active nba cities there is. and it's big and diverse and in the middle of the 8 million people market.
stop with the utter stupidity and stop acting like you know what he's into. LA is not it. And he's not a follower
Just stop already.
LA is not attractive and he's not moving for a city over a team

Go away with your autism

[Bush4Ever.]

Orlando is great and it's big enough and in tge middle of the 8 million people market.
stop with the utter stupidity and stop acting like you know what he's into. LA is not it. And he's not a follower
Just stop already

Orlando is nobody's first choice.

If he trends into the megastar you say he is (or even a tier below that), he'll have a variety of options.

It's not a coincidence absolutely no superstar has voluntarily gone to Orlando in NBA history.

[Sudanese Sensation]

Orlando is great and it's big enough and in tge middle of the 8 million people market.
stop with the utter stupidity and stop acting like you know what he's into. LA is not it. And he's not a follower
Just stop already

Orlando is nobody's first choice.

If he trends into the megastar you say he is (or even a tier below that), he'll have a variety of options.

It's not a coincidence absolutely no superstar has voluntarily gone to Orlando in NBA history.

Would you concede that Grant Hill was putting together an NBA Top 75 career before he got hurt?

[elartman1973]

Orlando is great and it's big enough and in tge middle of the 8 million people market.
stop with the utter stupidity and stop acting like you know what he's into. LA is not it. And he's not a follower
Just stop already

Orlando is nobody's first choice.

If he trends into the megastar you say he is (or even a tier below that), he'll have a variety of options.

It's not a coincidence absolutely no superstar has voluntarily gone to Orlando in NBA history.

Smh

You just don't get it.
Team first
Orlando is great and no superstars were even offered anything during tank rebuild years. They go to good teams with potential. City is irrelevent.
Stop with this stupidity and trying to discredit and act like this is anything remotely close to the past.
Players gravitate to other great players not cities.
And we have great players who will be even greater.
You're so desperate to shade

You're embarrassing yourself