Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
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Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Vogel has been consistent and steady, with the exception of the years in Orlando, but God himself couldn't win in that mediocre small town/franchise.
Pacers (6 seasons) - 57.7% w/l
Orlando (2 seasons) - 32.95% w/l (we shouldn't count this against him IMO)
Lakers (1 season) - 73.2% w/l
He made Roy Hibbert look like a Top 3 center in the league during his stint with the Pacers and had that team contending with the 3 headed dragon in the Heat on a yearly basis.
Then he was able to manage the various egos on the Lakers to a smooth Championship.
Is he Top 10 all time yet?
Pacers (6 seasons) - 57.7% w/l
Orlando (2 seasons) - 32.95% w/l (we shouldn't count this against him IMO)
Lakers (1 season) - 73.2% w/l
He made Roy Hibbert look like a Top 3 center in the league during his stint with the Pacers and had that team contending with the 3 headed dragon in the Heat on a yearly basis.
Then he was able to manage the various egos on the Lakers to a smooth Championship.
Is he Top 10 all time yet?
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Steve clifford took the same team in orlando to the playoffs the following 2 years....vogel is trashLeBronMonsterDunk wrote:Vogel has been consistent and steady, with the exception of the years in Orlando, but God himself couldn't win in that mediocre small town/franchise.
Pacers (6 seasons) - 57.7% w/l
Orlando (2 seasons) - 32.95% w/l (we shouldn't count this against him IMO)
Lakers (1 season) - 73.2% w/l
He made Roy Hibbert look like a Top 3 center in the league during his stint with the Pacers and had that team contending with the 3 headed dragon in the Heat on a yearly basis.
Then he was able to manage the various egos on the Lakers to a smooth Championship.
Is he Top 10 all time yet?
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Makes no sense including his totals with the Lakers farm team.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
TrueHavlicekstealsit wrote:Makes no sense including his totals with the Lakers farm team.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Frank Vogel has a 50.68% w/l in the Playoffselartman1973 wrote:Steve clifford took the same team in orlando to the playoffs the following 2 years....vogel is trashLeBronMonsterDunk wrote:Vogel has been consistent and steady, with the exception of the years in Orlando, but God himself couldn't win in that mediocre small town/franchise.
Pacers (6 seasons) - 57.7% w/l
Orlando (2 seasons) - 32.95% w/l (we shouldn't count this against him IMO)
Lakers (1 season) - 73.2% w/l
He made Roy Hibbert look like a Top 3 center in the league during his stint with the Pacers and had that team contending with the 3 headed dragon in the Heat on a yearly basis.
Then he was able to manage the various egos on the Lakers to a smooth Championship.
Is he Top 10 all time yet?
Steve "Big Red Dog" Clifford has a 20.72% w/l in the Playoffs.
Please don't ever bring up that trash coach in comparison to Top 10 ATG Frank Vogel again.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Vogel sucks.so glad we fired his lame ass. Dude is clueless as fuck
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
But in his defense... you also traded away two All Stars in Oladipo and Sabonis for essentially nothing, and you also gave big contract extensions to Fultz and Isaacs.elartman1973 wrote:Vogel sucks.so glad we fired his lame ass. Dude is clueless as fuck
Soooo.... your FO might just be clueless.
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Are you autistic?LNS wrote:But in his defense... you also traded away two All Stars in Oladipo and Sabonis for essentially nothing, and you also gave big contract extensions to Fultz and Isaacs.elartman1973 wrote:Vogel sucks.so glad we fired his lame ass. Dude is clueless as fuck
Soooo.... your FO might just be clueless.
Has nothing to do with anything you idiot.
Clifford took the same team vogel had to the playoffs 2 years and counting...vogel wasnt as good..period
And deals that are 4 or 5 years apart are not related in any way...stop being stupid
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Vogel has a title. Clifford is 271-294 as a head coach.elartman1973 wrote:Are you autistic?LNS wrote:But in his defense... you also traded away two All Stars in Oladipo and Sabonis for essentially nothing, and you also gave big contract extensions to Fultz and Isaacs.elartman1973 wrote:Vogel sucks.so glad we fired his lame ass. Dude is clueless as fuck
Soooo.... your FO might just be clueless.
Has nothing to do with anything you idiot.
Clifford took the same team vogel had to the playoffs 2 years and counting...vogel wasnt as good..period
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Vogel had to deal with a young & injury-plagued roster in the middle of a management change. Had he enjoyed the competence of stable management like the Lakers & Pacers maybe Orlando could have gone places. As it stands they havent won a PO series since May 2010. Think of all the things that have happened since then!
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Dont matter...clifford is a superior coach. He was stuck with a shitty Hornets roster in a shitty cityLNS wrote:Vogel has a title. Clifford is 271-294 as a head coach.elartman1973 wrote:Are you autistic?LNS wrote:
But in his defense... you also traded away two All Stars in Oladipo and Sabonis for essentially nothing, and you also gave big contract extensions to Fultz and Isaacs.
Soooo.... your FO might just be clueless.
Has nothing to do with anything you idiot.
Clifford took the same team vogel had to the playoffs 2 years and counting...vogel wasnt as good..period
You have autism.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Lolol at trying to make excuses for vogel being garbage.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Vogel had to deal with a young & injury-plagued roster in the middle of a management change. Had he enjoyed the competence of stable management like the Lakers & Pacers maybe Orlando could have gone places. As it stands their last playoff series win happened in May 2010. Think of all the things that have happened since then!
He had plenty of chances under stable management..his sucking is the catalysts to the front office being replaced.
Plus he shit the bed in year one in LA and let's not pretend like they had a stable front office..we all know how that went
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
He’s 75-80 coaching the Magicianselartman1973 wrote:Dont matter...clifford is a superior coach. He was stuck with a shitty Hornets roster in a shitty cityLNS wrote:Vogel has a title. Clifford is 271-294 as a head coach.elartman1973 wrote: Are you autistic?
Has nothing to do with anything you idiot.
Clifford took the same team vogel had to the playoffs 2 years and counting...vogel wasnt as good..period
You have autism.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Shaq was still an active player the last time the Magic won a playoff series. WikiLeaks hadnt released their cables yet. Leslie Nielsen was still alive!
Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
He only coached one season for the Lakers. And he won a title.elartman1973 wrote:Lolol at trying to make excuses for vogel being garbage.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Vogel had to deal with a young & injury-plagued roster in the middle of a management change. Had he enjoyed the competence of stable management like the Lakers & Pacers maybe Orlando could have gone places. As it stands their last playoff series win happened in May 2010. Think of all the things that have happened since then!
He had plenty of chances under stable management..his sucking is the catalysts to the front office being replaced.
Plus he shit the bed in year one in LA and let's not pretend like they had a stable front office..we all know how that went
You have autism.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
And that's why you idiots think hes a great coach when in reality its lebron being healthy and then addition of AD but noooo...you think its Vogeks coachingLNS wrote:He only coached one season for the Lakers. And he won a title.elartman1973 wrote:Lolol at trying to make excuses for vogel being garbage.Havlicekstealsit wrote:Vogel had to deal with a young & injury-plagued roster in the middle of a management change. Had he enjoyed the competence of stable management like the Lakers & Pacers maybe Orlando could have gone places. As it stands their last playoff series win happened in May 2010. Think of all the things that have happened since then!
He had plenty of chances under stable management..his sucking is the catalysts to the front office being replaced.
Plus he shit the bed in year one in LA and let's not pretend like they had a stable front office..we all know how that went
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
I agree that healthy Lebron and AD are the main reason the Lakers won. That duo shits on any other duo in the league.elartman1973 wrote:And that's why you idiots think hes a great coach when in reality its lebron being healthy and then addition of AD but noooo...you think its Vogeks coachingLNS wrote:He only coached one season for the Lakers. And he won a title.elartman1973 wrote: Lolol at trying to make excuses for vogel being garbage.
He had plenty of chances under stable management..his sucking is the catalysts to the front office being replaced.
Plus he shit the bed in year one in LA and let's not pretend like they had a stable front office..we all know how that went
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But having a great coach matters a lot come PO time. Clifford wouldn’t have known what to do.
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
I saw Vogel win 4 Coach of the Month awards and reach 2 conference Finals with the Pacers in the 2010s. I saw no Orlando Magic coaches achieving such in that time. Why is that?
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Re: Where does Frank Vogel rank on the All Time coaching list?
Then pen your eyes dickhead...Havlicekstealsit wrote:I saw Vogel win 4 Coach of the Month awards and reach 2 conference Finals with the Pacers in the 2010s. I saw no Orlando Magic coaches achieving such in that time. Why is that?
He sucked in orlando..that's a fact.stop acting like it was the magic and not his faukt..you cant erase facts
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LNS wrote:elartman1973 wrote:And that's why you idiots think hes a great coach when in reality its lebron being healthy and then addition of AD but noooo...you think its Vogeks coachingLNS wrote:
He only coached one season for the Lakers. And he won a title.
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Clifford would definitely know wat to do and would have been even better and swept the injured heat
I agree that healthy Lebron and AD are the main reason the Lakers won. That duo shits on any other duo in the league.
But having a great coach matters a lot come PO time. Clifford wouldn’t have known what to do.
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