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876Stephen wrote:
elmouse03 wrote:
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So am I. Probably.





Maybe.
artman is the smartest of us all though.

That goes without saying


I wanted to start a Chuck Norris-esque or World's Most Interesting Man type thread/gimmick featuring Artman.

But Artman is too perfect to bring down with rehashed gimmicks.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
876Stephen wrote:
elmouse03 wrote:
artman is the smartest of us all though.

That goes without saying


I wanted to start a Chuck Norris-esque or World's Most Interesting Man type thread/gimmick featuring Artman.

But Artman is too perfect to bring down with rehashed gimmicks.
Same Failed and recycled jokes. Apparently he's been called every insult in the book because they are recycled.
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Sorry but voting for Mikan is flat out stupid. How the hell does he beat out a lot of those guys? Bob Pettit should be over Mikan. Mikan has rings and that's the only thing he has on Pettit. Pettit is my vote OP
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deezna10 wrote:Sorry but voting for Mikan is flat out stupid. How the hell does he beat out a lot of those guys? Bob Pettit should be over Mikan. Mikan has rings and that's the only thing he has on Pettit. Pettit is my vote OP

Oh, so influence, PER and Win Shares among the greatest players ever means nothing to you?

Fair enough.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
deezna10 wrote:Sorry but voting for Mikan is flat out stupid. How the hell does he beat out a lot of those guys? Bob Pettit should be over Mikan. Mikan has rings and that's the only thing he has on Pettit. Pettit is my vote OP

Oh, so influence, PER and Win Shares among the greatest players ever means nothing to you?

Fair enough.
Take all things into account. stats, rings, etc. I find it quite sad that Mikan has as many votes as he does over Pettit when it shouldn't be close.

NBA Championships and Seasons
NBA Championships
George Mikan 5
Bob Pettit 1

NBA Seasons
George Mikan 7
Bob Pettit 11

Playoffs Played
George Mikan 7
Bob Pettit 9

All-Star Games
George Mikan 4
Bob Pettit 11
Honors and Awards

Season MVP
George Mikan 0
Bob Pettit 2

All-NBA First Team
George Mikan 6
Bob Pettit 10
All-NBA Teams

(Total Selections)
George Mikan 6
Bob Pettit 11

Scoring Leader
George Mikan 3
Bob Pettit 2

Rebounds Leader
George Mikan 1
Bob Pettit 1

Rookie of The Year
George Mikan 0
Bob Pettit 1

NBA Regular Season Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
George Mikan 23.1
Bob Pettit 26.4

Rebounds Per Game
George Mikan 13.4
Bob Pettit 16.2

Assists Per Game
George Mikan 2.8
Bob Pettit 3.0

Totals Stats
Total Points
George Mikan 10,156
Bob Pettit 20,880

Total Rebounds
George Mikan 4,167
Bob Pettit 12,849

Total Assists
George Mikan 1,245
Bob Pettit 2,369

Total Games
George Mikan 439
Bob Pettit 792

Percentages
Field Goal Percentage
George Mikan .404
Bob Pettit .436

Free Throw Percentage
George Mikan .782
Bob Pettit .761

Best Season
Points Per Game
George Mikan 28.4
(1951)
Bob Pettit 31.1
(1962)

Rebounds Per Game
George Mikan 14.4
(1953)
Bob Pettit 20.3
(1961)

Assists Per Game
George Mikan 3.6
(1949)
Bob Pettit 3.7
(1962)

NBA Playoffs Stats
Stats Per Game
Points Per Game
George Mikan 24.0
Bob Pettit 25.5

Rebounds Per Game
George Mikan 13.9
Bob Pettit 14.8

Assists Per Game
George Mikan 2.2
Bob Pettit 2.7

Totals Stats
Total Points
George Mikan 1,680
Bob Pettit 2,240

Total Rebounds
George Mikan 665
Bob Pettit 1,304

Total Assists
George Mikan 155
Bob Pettit 241

Total Games
George Mikan 70
Bob Pettit 88

Percentages
Field Goal Percentage
George Mikan .404
Bob Pettit .418

Free Throw Percentage
George Mikan .786
Bob Pettit .774

Best Playoff
Points Per Game
George Mikan 31.3
(1950)
Bob Pettit 31.8
(1963)

Rebounds Per Game
George Mikan 15.9
(1952)
Bob Pettit 17.6
(1961)

Assists Per Game
George Mikan 3.0
(1950)
Bob Pettit 3.7
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Kobeunderbite wrote:Dirk:

10th all-time in points, likely to move into top 7-8.
9th all-time in win shares.
8th all-time in offensive win shares.
1x MVP, FMVP, Champion.
15 consecutive seasons of 17.5-26.6 PPG and counting.
One of six players who achieved a 50-40-90 season.
Led Mavs to playoffs in 13 of 14 seasons and counting.
12x All-Star.
12x All-NBA Team.
One of four players with playoff career average of 25 ppg and 10 rpg.
One of eleven players to have been NBA Champion, NBA regular season MVP, NBA Finals MVP and a 10× NBA All-Star.

Dirk has been very good for a very long time, which in my opinion puts him above a couple of select players who may have had a more impactful peak. Dirk is also one of the most clutch performers in NBA history, with a long track record of producing in elimination games in particular.

It should be noted that I am aware that Malone beats Dirk in several of these categories, but Dirk will close the gap on or surpass Malone in most within 2 seasons. Malone's 0 rings are the decider for me here ultimately, and more specifically his inability to step up in big games vs Dirk's knack for upping his game in the playoffs. Malone is also a terrible human being.

I can't recall one time that the Media slammed Malone for:

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Cool... so Mikan's stats went up in the playoffs... while Pettit's went down.

Hmmm... interesting.

I guess that's why Mikan won 5 titles in 7 years. And, Pettit only won 1.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Cool... so Mikan's stats went up in the playoffs... while Pettit's went down.

Hmmm... interesting.

I guess that's why Mikan won 5 titles in 7 years. And, Pettit only won 1.
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For the record I think Pettit's 60-61 season when he put up 27.9ppg and 20.3rpg was more impressive then his 61-62 31.1 18.7rpg season. That's just me though.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Cool... so Mikan's stats went up in the playoffs... while Pettit's went down.

Hmmm... interesting.

I guess that's why Mikan won 5 titles in 7 years. And, Pettit only won 1.
And yet he still put up better numbers across the board than Mikan. lol
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deezna10 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Cool... so Mikan's stats went up in the playoffs... while Pettit's went down.

Hmmm... interesting.

I guess that's why Mikan won 5 titles in 7 years. And, Pettit only won 1.
And yet he still put up better numbers across the board than Mikan. lol
Both Mikan and Pettit played with Slater Martin and Clyde Lovellette.
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elmouse03 wrote:
deezna10 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Cool... so Mikan's stats went up in the playoffs... while Pettit's went down.

Hmmm... interesting.

I guess that's why Mikan won 5 titles in 7 years. And, Pettit only won 1.
And yet he still put up better numbers across the board than Mikan. lol
Both Mikan and Pettit played with Slater Martin and Clyde Lovellette.
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deezna10 wrote:
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deezna10 wrote: And yet he still put up better numbers across the board than Mikan. lol
Both Mikan and Pettit played with Slater Martin and Clyde Lovellette.
Superstars :D
Pettit's 59, 60, and 61 teams were better then his 58 title team imo.
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deezna10 wrote:
elmouse03 wrote:
deezna10 wrote: And yet he still put up better numbers across the board than Mikan. lol
Both Mikan and Pettit played with Slater Martin and Clyde Lovellette.
Superstars :D

Well, both are HOFers...
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
deezna10 wrote:
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Both Mikan and Pettit played with Slater Martin and Clyde Lovellette.
Superstars :D

Well, both are HOFers...
Yes they are.
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Mikan would have easily won maybe all the mvps from 49-54 if they existed.
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We should wrap this up. Mikan is #16.
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There has only been 19 votes. Got to wait a little longer. Mikan is by no menas running away with this
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876Stephen wrote:There has only been 19 votes. Got to wait a little longer. Mikan is by no menas running away with this
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876Stephen wrote:There has only been 19 votes. Got to wait a little longer. Mikan is by no menas running away with this
The people who haven't voted are likely not going to vote anyway. If this were a two horse race I would agree that Mikan's lead is marginal, but this is a 7 horse race. A lead by 4 or 5 when put into that greater context is pretty substantial, and not likely to be overcome.
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