2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #12 selection
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My first order of business will be to switch Wilt and Bird's positions on this list.
Taking a break from the board. Please reference my last post for more details if you are interested.
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power going to the head already.Bush4Ever wrote:My first order of business will be to switch Wilt and Bird's positions on this list.
You're fired.
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elmouse03 wrote:power going to the head already.Bush4Ever wrote:My first order of business will be to switch Wilt and Bird's positions on this list.
You're fired.
Taking a break from the board. Please reference my last post for more details if you are interested.
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I will.... and based on him being better than any other candidate on the board.thedangerouskitchen wrote:So who voted for Oscar... and based on what?
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I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
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Who did you vote for at #12? (I haven't the inclination to wade back through the thread.)vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
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Mosesamericaninfidel wrote:Who did you vote for at #12? (I haven't the inclination to wade back through the thread.)vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
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My vote as well. I agree with your comments on O, though I suspect things are only going to get worse as we go. Meaning, there's a lot more consensus at the top of the poll than in the rest. On the other hand, that probably will spur more debate.vcsgrizzfan wrote:Mosesamericaninfidel wrote:Who did you vote for at #12? (I haven't the inclination to wade back through the thread.)vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
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He did part the red sea. soooooooooooooooovcsgrizzfan wrote:Mosesamericaninfidel wrote:Who did you vote for at #12? (I haven't the inclination to wade back through the thread.)vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
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I hear what you're saying. My reasoning for picking him is that they simply couldn't match up with the teams in that conference on a regular. I don't fault him for that.vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
I'm a baaaddd motherfucker!!
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Indeed!americaninfidel wrote:My vote as well. I agree with your comments on O, though I suspect things are only going to get worse as we go. Meaning, there's a lot more consensus at the top of the poll than in the rest. On the other hand, that probably will spur more debate.vcsgrizzfan wrote:Mosesamericaninfidel wrote:
Who did you vote for at #12? (I haven't the inclination to wade back through the thread.)
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Who the fuck was Oscar playing with before he got Kareem? Jerry lucas was good player but other than that there was literally nothing. He was never going to compete against any of even the average teams let alone Wilt's sixers or Russell's celtics.y2ktors wrote:I hear what you're saying. My reasoning for picking him is that they simply couldn't match up with the teams in that conference on a regular. I don't fault him for that.vcsgrizzfan wrote:I believe Oscar won two playoff series in his entire career as the best player on his team. He completely missed the playoffs as the best player on his team more often than he won playoff series. His only ring was supporting Kareem.
I'm sorry, but I don't care how pretty the stats are, I can't accept that the 12th best player in NBA history has those black marks on his resume.
Plus he gets bonus points for being of the leading pioneers of the modern game. Lebron, Dr J, Magic, Bird and others modeled their game after Big O. He was the original do everything well player.
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elmouse03 wrote:You don't think Oscar should be 12?thedangerouskitchen wrote:So who voted for Oscar... and based on what?
No way... not with only 1 (second-fiddle) Ring. In fact I have (in no order) West, Pettit, Hondo, Moses and probably a few others ahead of Robertson.
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How many lead rings does west have?thedangerouskitchen wrote:elmouse03 wrote:You don't think Oscar should be 12?thedangerouskitchen wrote:So who voted for Oscar... and based on what?
No way... not with only 1 (second-fiddle) Ring. In fact I have (in no order) West, Pettit, Hondo, Moses and probably a few others ahead of Robertson.
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1ish, he won a ring in which he wasnt fmvp, but got fmvp of a series in which he didnt win hahay2ktors wrote:How many lead rings does west have?thedangerouskitchen wrote:elmouse03 wrote:
You don't think Oscar should be 12?
No way... not with only 1 (second-fiddle) Ring. In fact I have (in no order) West, Pettit, Hondo, Moses and probably a few others ahead of Robertson.
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Pettit is really the only true lead dog that won a ring as a lead dog in that bunch.thedangerouskitchen wrote:elmouse03 wrote:You don't think Oscar should be 12?thedangerouskitchen wrote:So who voted for Oscar... and based on what?
No way... not with only 1 (second-fiddle) Ring. In fact I have (in no order) West, Pettit, Hondo, Moses and probably a few others ahead of Robertson.
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Funny story about Oscar Robertson and his all-time ranking.
Mike Francesa once went off on a rant about the players that would make it on NBA's "Mt. Rushmore" and he acted as though it was a foregone conclusion that Oscar would be included. A caller suggested that perhaps Mike was overrating Robertson, and Mike immediately cut him off and wouldn't hear any of it. He justified ranking Robertson ahead of Kobe based on Kobe's shortcomings without a talented supporting cast, completely ignoring the fact that over a 6-year stretch in his prime, Robertson missed the playoffs 3 times and was eliminated in the first round another 3 times.
I called up in a furious rage, and was put on hold, but never made it on the air.
Basketball is not Mike's sport.
Mike Francesa once went off on a rant about the players that would make it on NBA's "Mt. Rushmore" and he acted as though it was a foregone conclusion that Oscar would be included. A caller suggested that perhaps Mike was overrating Robertson, and Mike immediately cut him off and wouldn't hear any of it. He justified ranking Robertson ahead of Kobe based on Kobe's shortcomings without a talented supporting cast, completely ignoring the fact that over a 6-year stretch in his prime, Robertson missed the playoffs 3 times and was eliminated in the first round another 3 times.
I called up in a furious rage, and was put on hold, but never made it on the air.
Basketball is not Mike's sport.
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Wrap this shit up already. Time for #13.
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Kobeunderbite wrote:Funny story about Oscar Robertson and his all-time ranking.
Mike Francesa once went off on a rant about the players that would make it on NBA's "Mt. Rushmore" and he acted as though it was a foregone conclusion that Oscar would be included. A caller suggested that perhaps Mike was overrating Robertson, and Mike immediately cut him off and wouldn't hear any of it. He justified ranking Robertson ahead of Kobe based on Kobe's shortcomings without a talented supporting cast, completely ignoring the fact that over a 6-year stretch in his prime, Robertson missed the playoffs 3 times and was eliminated in the first round another 3 times.
I called up in a furious rage, and was put on hold, but never made it on the air.
Basketball is not Mike's sport.
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Moses has a Ring and FMVP... and he was a 3-time regular-season MVP. West has 1 Ring and 1 FMVP, and aside from Jordan he is often regarded as the greatest Playoff/Finals performer ever. Hondo owns 8 rings (2 after Russ retired) and 1 FMVP.elmouse03 wrote:Pettit is really the only true lead dog that won a ring as a lead dog in that bunch.thedangerouskitchen wrote:elmouse03 wrote:
You don't think Oscar should be 12?
No way... not with only 1 (second-fiddle) Ring. In fact I have (in no order) West, Pettit, Hondo, Moses and probably a few others ahead of Robertson.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."