MJ/Kobe/Lebron: Playoff success / competition

[thedangerouskitchen]

That's a strange answer to my question.

A strange answer to a stupid question...

Why are you getting hostile now?

Why are you trolling my thread?

[Da Stars.]

Nice bump.

[ripper76]

A strange answer to a stupid question...

Why are you getting hostile now?

Why are you trolling my thread?

Asking you a yes or no question is trolling?

[thedangerouskitchen]

BUMP

[Da Stars.]

I googled Gutless Choking Runaway Coward. This thread came up. Can you imagine that.

[Da Stars.]

Out of boredom. Bump.

[Kennethgriffin]

kinda stupid how OP leaves out a ton of series kobe was #1 option in between 2001-2004


kobe lead the lakers in scoring for all of the first 3 rounds in 2001

kobe lead the lakers in scoring for 1-2 rounds in 2002

kobe lead the lakers in scoring for the first round victory in 2003

kobe lead the lakers in scoring for the first three round victories in 2004

kobe even lead the lakers in scoring during the first round of 2000 vs sacramento

[thedangerouskitchen]

kinda stupid how OP leaves out a ton of series kobe was #1 option in between 2001-2004

Pssst: Those were "Shaq's Lakers"... just because Chucky was a selfish-ball-hog doesn't make him anything more than what he was at the time: Shaq's side-kick.

Fact: Opponents game-planned to stop Shaq FIRST and foremost, not Kobe. Opponents double-triple teamed Shaq, not Kobe.

[Kennethgriffin]

kinda stupid how OP leaves out a ton of series kobe was #1 option in between 2001-2004

Pssst: Those were "Shaq's Lakers"... just because Chucky was a selfish-ball-hog doesn't make him anything more than what he was at the time: Shaq's side-kick.

Fact: Opponents game-planned to stop Shaq FIRST and foremost, not Kobe. Opponents double-triple teamed Shaq, not Kobe.

shaqs lakers were from 1997 to 2000

shaq and kobes lakers were from 2001 to 2002

kobe and shaqs lakers were from 2003-2004


you can keep the one round vs the kings in 2000.... kobe has at the very least equal claim to his series victories as dominant leading scorer, assist leader from 2001 to 2004

[thedangerouskitchen]

kinda stupid how OP leaves out a ton of series kobe was #1 option in between 2001-2004

Pssst: Those were "Shaq's Lakers"... just because Chucky was a selfish-ball-hog doesn't make him anything more than what he was at the time: Shaq's side-kick.

Fact: Opponents game-planned to stop Shaq FIRST and foremost, not Kobe. Opponents double-triple teamed Shaq, not Kobe.

shaqs lakers were from 1997 to 2000

shaq and kobes lakers were from 2001 to 2002

kobe and shaqs lakers were from 2003-2004


you can keep the one round vs the kings in 2000.... kobe has at the very least equal claim to his series victories as dominant leading scorer, assist leader from 2001 to 2004

Nope... you're wrong.

Those Lakers were "Shaq's Team" every bit as much as the 80's Celts/Lakers were Bird/Magic's teams, and the 90's Bulls were "Jordan's Bulls"... even MUCH MORE actually, because in 94 (when MJ retired) Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins and one-of-the-worst calls away from likely reaching the ECF at the very least, while Kobe led "his" Lakers to 34-wins and no playoffs in 2005, after Shaq left. In fact it took another HOF big man to enter the fold for LA (Gasol) before Kobe could win another playoff series.

[Kennethgriffin]

Pssst: Those were "Shaq's Lakers"... just because Chucky was a selfish-ball-hog doesn't make him anything more than what he was at the time: Shaq's side-kick.

Fact: Opponents game-planned to stop Shaq FIRST and foremost, not Kobe. Opponents double-triple teamed Shaq, not Kobe.

shaqs lakers were from 1997 to 2000

shaq and kobes lakers were from 2001 to 2002

kobe and shaqs lakers were from 2003-2004


you can keep the one round vs the kings in 2000.... kobe has at the very least equal claim to his series victories as dominant leading scorer, assist leader from 2001 to 2004

Nope... you're wrong.

Those Lakers were "Shaq's Team" every bit as much as the 80's Celts/Lakers were Bird/Magic's teams, and the 90's Bulls were "Jordan's Bulls"... even MUCH MORE actually, because in 94 (when MJ retired) Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins and one-of-the-worst calls away from likely reaching the ECF at the very least, while Kobe led "his" Lakers to 34-wins and no playoffs in 2005, after Shaq left. In fact it took another HOF big man to enter the fold for LA (Gasol) before Kobe could win another playoff series.

nope. i'm right. sorry.. kobe dominated more series than shaq from 2001 to 2004

by far actually. not even close... shaq just shows up for the finals cause its basically a cake walk exibition and he knows he can hog the fmvps without worrying about hackashaq or pressure situations

[thedangerouskitchen]

shaqs lakers were from 1997 to 2000

shaq and kobes lakers were from 2001 to 2002

kobe and shaqs lakers were from 2003-2004


you can keep the one round vs the kings in 2000.... kobe has at the very least equal claim to his series victories as dominant leading scorer, assist leader from 2001 to 2004

Nope... you're wrong.

Those Lakers were "Shaq's Team" every bit as much as the 80's Celts/Lakers were Bird/Magic's teams, and the 90's Bulls were "Jordan's Bulls"... even MUCH MORE actually, because in 94 (when MJ retired) Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins and one-of-the-worst calls away from likely reaching the ECF at the very least, while Kobe led "his" Lakers to 34-wins and no playoffs in 2005, after Shaq left. In fact it took another HOF big man to enter the fold for LA (Gasol) before Kobe could win another playoff series.

nope. i'm right. sorry.. kobe dominated more series than shaq from 2001 to 2004

by far actually. not even close... shaq just shows up for the finals cause its basically a cake walk exibition and he knows he can hog the fmvps without worrying about hackashaq or pressure situations

Pippen dominated in the first 3-Peat Finals as well (22 / 9 / 7 / 48% a game, along with legendary Defense), but that doesn't change the fact that the Bulls were "Jordan's Team".

Same with those Lakers, evidenced by the fact that Shaq (not Kobe) won all the MVP's.

BTW, you are COMPLETELY out of your mind thinking Kobe dominated more series' than Shaq (circa 2001-04) "by far not even close". In fact, the ONLY series where you can argue Kobe outplayed Shaq was the 2001 WCF.

[vegasfraud]

this thread needs updated, thx.

[Robceltsfan]

Need to add a "beat 70 win team" section.

[Ghostown42]

So now LeBron has 1 series win over a 70+ win team (something never done in NBA history).

2 series wins over 60+ win teams (Bulls 2011 and Hawks 2015)
(That's 2 more than Kobe).

And 9 series wins over 50+ win teams (Pistons '07, Celtics '11, Pacers '12, OKC '12, Pacers '13, Spurs '13, Pacers '14, Bulls '15, Raptors '16)