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Obama wants things like this to happen. It helps his agenda. He and Holder were shipping guns to Mexico so they could use the deaths caused by them to push for tighter gun control here.
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l3bron wrote:I don't understand how this could be blamed on Obama. It would show an elementary grasp on how the political system works in this country.

These numbers aside, as they're widely unconfirmed, Obama has been utterly terrible at diffusing situations involving both terrorism and racial tension. TERRIBLE.

I would argue that Obama's handling of race over the past years has done more to damage black/white race relations than anything since segregation. He has been blindly sided with African Americans on almost every single instance of question even without any evidence. He's had to stick his foot in his mouth on more than a few occasions.

His nonchalant handling of Muslims, terrorism, and his lack of willingness to call out religious extremists for what they are, has caused a great deal of the country to become even more incensed with these issues.


It's pretty telling that a man as openly flagrant as Donald Trump has been able to politically steal the national spotlight for the coming year's presidential race. He's playing on the emotions of many Americans that have tired from Obama's lack of response (or improper response) to hot topic issues over the past few years.
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l3bron wrote:I don't understand how this could be blamed on Obama. It would show an elementary grasp on how the political system works in this country.
It isn't his fault. But since he's black and has an Arabic surname, he's far from the norm in terms of his position in this country as POTUS, which makes him a super easy target.
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Liberals, and even the Attorney General called the shootings a "wonderful opportunity"

Sickening how they use this to simply push an agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... portunity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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AlaskaHawks wrote:Liberals, and even the Attorney General called the shootings a "wonderful opportunity"

Sickening how they use this to simply push an agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... portunity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You do know that your source is not unbiased, right? That they are agenda-driven to the point of lying, right?
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y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:Liberals, and even the Attorney General called the shootings a "wonderful opportunity"

Sickening how they use this to simply push an agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... portunity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You do know that your source is not unbiased, right? That they are agenda-driven to the point of lying, right?
You know it's a quote, right? You know she's on video saying that quote, right?
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:Liberals, and even the Attorney General called the shootings a "wonderful opportunity"

Sickening how they use this to simply push an agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... portunity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You do know that your source is not unbiased, right? That they are agenda-driven to the point of lying, right?
You know it's a quote, right? You know she's on video saying that quote, right?
And an entire article that blatant misconstrued her quote to stir up bullshit controversy.
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y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote: You do know that your source is not unbiased, right? That they are agenda-driven to the point of lying, right?
You know it's a quote, right? You know she's on video saying that quote, right?
And an entire article that blatant misconstrued her quote to stir up bullshit controversy.
"We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change"

What do you think she's referring to?

It's obvious. Stop defending her. Gun Control. She called the death of 14 innocent people a "wonderful opportunity" To restrict guns in this country. Sickening. And here you are parroting the liberal agenda. Attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the issue. There are plenty of sources, maybe you find one of them more credible. Watch the video for yourself if that makes you happy. She's using the death of 14 Americans for agenda. And you lap it up.
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
You know it's a quote, right? You know she's on video saying that quote, right?
And an entire article that blatant misconstrued her quote to stir up bullshit controversy.
"We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change"

What do you think she's referring to?

It's obvious. Stop defending her. Gun Control. She called the death of 14 innocent people a "wonderful opportunity" To restrict guns in this country. Sickening. And here you are parroting the liberal agenda. Attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the issue. There are plenty of sources, maybe you find one of them more credible. Watch the video for yourself if that makes you happy. She's using the death of 14 Americans for agenda. And you lap it up.
Hawks, what I won't defend is something or someone That insinuates that our government officials are "rooting" for catastrophic events to occur to "further their agendas" and I don't give a FUCK what political party that they represent. Agree and agree to disagree with our government officials on politics but it's absolution absurd and unwarranted to think that they feel good about fellow Americans tragically losing their lives due to unfathomable events of violence.
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y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote: And an entire article that blatant misconstrued her quote to stir up bullshit controversy.
"We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change"

What do you think she's referring to?

It's obvious. Stop defending her. Gun Control. She called the death of 14 innocent people a "wonderful opportunity" To restrict guns in this country. Sickening. And here you are parroting the liberal agenda. Attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the issue. There are plenty of sources, maybe you find one of them more credible. Watch the video for yourself if that makes you happy. She's using the death of 14 Americans for agenda. And you lap it up.
Hawks, what I won't defend is something or someone That insinuates that our government officials are "rooting" for catastrophic events to occur to "further their agendas" and I don't give a FUCK what political party that they represent. Agree and agree to disagree with our government officials on politics but it's absolution absurd and unwarranted to think that they feel good about fellow Americans tragically losing their lives due to unfathomable events of violence.
Odd choice of words then. "wonderful opportunity"

You are defending it.
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If the roles were reversed and it was George W. Bush calling 9/11 a "wonderful opportunity" to exact revenge on Muslim terrorists.........liberals would be saying the same shit you are Hawks.
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Robceltsfan wrote:If the roles were reversed and it was George W. Bush calling 9/11 a "wonderful opportunity" to exact revenge on Muslim terrorists.........liberals would be saying the same shit you are Hawks.
It's horrible.
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Robceltsfan wrote:If the roles were reversed and it was George W. Bush calling 9/11 a "wonderful opportunity" to exact revenge on Muslim terrorists.........liberals would be saying the same shit you are Hawks.
And I defended Bush back then too...and I am a liberal.
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AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
"We’re at the point where these issues have come together really like never before in law enforcement thought and in our nation’s history and it gives us a wonderful opportunity and a wonderful moment to really make significant change"

What do you think she's referring to?

It's obvious. Stop defending her. Gun Control. She called the death of 14 innocent people a "wonderful opportunity" To restrict guns in this country. Sickening. And here you are parroting the liberal agenda. Attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the issue. There are plenty of sources, maybe you find one of them more credible. Watch the video for yourself if that makes you happy. She's using the death of 14 Americans for agenda. And you lap it up.
Hawks, what I won't defend is something or someone That insinuates that our government officials are "rooting" for catastrophic events to occur to "further their agendas" and I don't give a FUCK what political party that they represent. Agree and agree to disagree with our government officials on politics but it's absolution absurd and unwarranted to think that they feel good about fellow Americans tragically losing their lives due to unfathomable events of violence.
Odd choice of words then. "wonderful opportunity"

You are defending it.
I'm not defending the quote in itself because it's poor choice in words. There was no harm or twisted motivation behind it and that's what I'm defending.
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y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote: Hawks, what I won't defend is something or someone That insinuates that our government officials are "rooting" for catastrophic events to occur to "further their agendas" and I don't give a FUCK what political party that they represent. Agree and agree to disagree with our government officials on politics but it's absolution absurd and unwarranted to think that they feel good about fellow Americans tragically losing their lives due to unfathomable events of violence.
Odd choice of words then. "wonderful opportunity"

You are defending it.
I'm not defending the quote in itself because it's poor choice in words. There was no harm or twisted motivation behind it and that's what I'm defending.
"Think about that. The head of the U.S. Justice Department referred to the death of 14 innocent people at the hands of a murderous Muslim duo as a “wonderful opportunity” and a “wonderful moment.” No matter how you spin that, it says everything that one needs to know about progressives and how much they care for the citizens of America. It’s all about their agenda, and they will never let a serious crisis go to waste in order to further it."
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y2ktors wrote:
AlaskaHawks wrote:
y2ktors wrote: Hawks, what I won't defend is something or someone That insinuates that our government officials are "rooting" for catastrophic events to occur to "further their agendas" and I don't give a FUCK what political party that they represent. Agree and agree to disagree with our government officials on politics but it's absolution absurd and unwarranted to think that they feel good about fellow Americans tragically losing their lives due to unfathomable events of violence.
Odd choice of words then. "wonderful opportunity"

You are defending it.
I'm not defending the quote in itself because it's poor choice in words. There was no harm or twisted motivation behind it and that's what I'm defending.

You're giving them too much credit. The higher up one gets whether it be politics or executive management within a corporation, the less your actions when working toward a greater goal has a humane impact on you personally. Collateral damage is what they call it, when you're willing to sacrifice people's lives and jobs as a means to a desired result. She meant what she said, she just didn't mean to say it.
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y2ktors wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:If the roles were reversed and it was George W. Bush calling 9/11 a "wonderful opportunity" to exact revenge on Muslim terrorists.........liberals would be saying the same shit you are Hawks.
And I defended Bush back then too...and I am a liberal.
You may be the exception to the rule.

The left would have called for Bush's head if he had used those words to describe 9/11.....and you know it. Nobody is saying that she wanted them to die, or that she doesn't care that it happened. But the fact remains that after less than 24 hours she is calling a mass shooting a "wonderful opportunity". That cannot be misconstrued at all. She is politicizing a tragedy just hours after the bodies have gone cold in an effort to further her political agenda.

Is none of that true?
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Robceltsfan wrote:
y2ktors wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:If the roles were reversed and it was George W. Bush calling 9/11 a "wonderful opportunity" to exact revenge on Muslim terrorists.........liberals would be saying the same shit you are Hawks.
And I defended Bush back then too...and I am a liberal.
You may be the exception to the rule.

The left would have called for Bush's head if he had used those words to describe 9/11.....and you know it. Nobody is saying that she wanted them to die, or that she doesn't care that it happened. But the fact remains that after less than 24 hours she is calling a mass shooting a "wonderful opportunity". That cannot be misconstrued at all. She is politicizing a tragedy just hours after the bodies have gone cold in an effort to further her political agenda.

Is none of that true?
What politician hasn't done this With any tragedy?

As bad is it sounds, this is a nation that tends to run reactive and not proactive. Calls/politicking for change usually stems from tragedies: hurricanes, floods, terrorist attacks, etc. That's how things work because any proactive change is seen as " dumb libruhls" "flaming liberals" and all sorts of ridiculous banter. If people could reasonably sit down and discuss issues (like you and I have on this board), then just maybe a positive change for American society could occur and we could all benefit from it.
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