if it didnt pop out of thin air, it was created. and that CREATOR is GODGhostown42 wrote:This is such a stupid statement. Nothing has ever popped out of thin air, whether it had a creator or not. Anything that has ever been created by a person, animal, or other living thing...whatever...never popped out of thin air. Nothing pops out of thin air. The Big Bang theory does not say that everything popped out of thin air. You really need to stop exposing your ignorance.CleveTown™ wrote:point to one thing that has appeared out of thin air without having a creator behind it. No evidence whatsoever,but there is verifiable PROOF that things DO need to be created in order to exist.Shill Jackson wrote:the concept is possible, but the empirical evidence doesn't support it and must therefore be rejected.
Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
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Now, that's who I am and those "Schticks" will never die. I don't use them as schticks so will never tire talking about thee subjects. sorry.vcsgrizzfan wrote:CleveTown is trying to run with multiple shticks. His usual race baiting, the 'I love Donald Trump' shtick, the religious stuff, the Amerika sucks and is going into the toilet shtick....
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
The 'I'm not really trolling' shtick isn't too great.CleveTown™ wrote:Now, that's who I am and those "Schticks" will never die. I don't use them as schticks so will never tire talking about thee subjects. sorry.vcsgrizzfan wrote:CleveTown is trying to run with multiple shticks. His usual race baiting, the 'I love Donald Trump' shtick, the religious stuff, the Amerika sucks and is going into the toilet shtick....
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bro im serious, I dont think im trolling, im just trying to talk about subjects i feel passionate about...seriously.vcsgrizzfan wrote:The 'I'm not really trolling' shtick isn't too great.CleveTown™ wrote:Now, that's who I am and those "Schticks" will never die. I don't use them as schticks so will never tire talking about thee subjects. sorry.vcsgrizzfan wrote:CleveTown is trying to run with multiple shticks. His usual race baiting, the 'I love Donald Trump' shtick, the religious stuff, the Amerika sucks and is going into the toilet shtick....
Diversification!!
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
I have never claimed there is no god. You still haven't proved there is only one god. You are only asserting it.CleveTown™ wrote:Yes, my Bible tells us that TIME, space teime, the dimension WE live in has a beginning. God existed though before that outside of this dimension.Ghostown42 wrote:1) Your bible says there was a beginning. So, stop contradicting yourself.CleveTown™ wrote: Nobody created God, He always was. Had a "God" created this present day God, then the cycle would have to go on for an eternity in the past.
Either way, eternity exists. It did not start with the Big Bang.
There is, was and only will be ONE God. He exists outside of space time, in a dimension we know nothing about. He is eternal. He is who I am PROUD to worship.
Wisdom with man is foolishness to GOD.
2) Here's a challenge for you. Prove that there is only one god.
There is only one God represented in 3 forms. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There simply is not another God. Only ONE God makes perfect sense. Everything starts and ends with ONE God. Now prove there isnt a God. this should be hilarious
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well because given who God is and His nature, and the Book he gave mankind to communicate, I most assuredly believe Him and take Him at His Word that there is ONLY 1 God. Him, the Almighty Creator.Ghostown42 wrote:I have never claimed there is no god. You still haven't proved there is only one god. You are only asserting it.CleveTown™ wrote:Yes, my Bible tells us that TIME, space teime, the dimension WE live in has a beginning. God existed though before that outside of this dimension.Ghostown42 wrote:
1) Your bible says there was a beginning. So, stop contradicting yourself.
2) Here's a challenge for you. Prove that there is only one god.
There is only one God represented in 3 forms. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There simply is not another God. Only ONE God makes perfect sense. Everything starts and ends with ONE God. Now prove there isnt a God. this should be hilarious
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
That's not proof.CleveTown™ wrote:well because given who God is and His nature, and the Book he gave mankind to communicate, I most assuredly believe Him and take Him at His Word that there is ONLY 1 God. Him, the Almighty Creator.Ghostown42 wrote:I have never claimed there is no god. You still haven't proved there is only one god. You are only asserting it.CleveTown™ wrote: Yes, my Bible tells us that TIME, space teime, the dimension WE live in has a beginning. God existed though before that outside of this dimension.
There is only one God represented in 3 forms. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There simply is not another God. Only ONE God makes perfect sense. Everything starts and ends with ONE God. Now prove there isnt a God. this should be hilarious
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The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.Ghostown42 wrote:That's not proof.CleveTown™ wrote:well because given who God is and His nature, and the Book he gave mankind to communicate, I most assuredly believe Him and take Him at His Word that there is ONLY 1 God. Him, the Almighty Creator.Ghostown42 wrote:
I have never claimed there is no god. You still haven't proved there is only one god. You are only asserting it.
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
CleveTown™ wrote:Me and you could have an insightful discussion about God, but something tells me you are absolutely terrified of that. Because all you do is type the same supid comment in BIG RED LETTERS without actaully addressing anything spirtual at all. You are terrified of GodMaster Spade wrote:My God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your puny god
Why is THIS concept so hard for the OP to believe!?????
We could, and probably would, but you are the one preventing that. I've tried in the past to have serious discussions about this subject with you, but what you have shown is:
1. You are either a Blinded religious person that ignores everything that you don't agree with.....
or
2. You are simply in troll mode.
Which is it?
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neither, actually. You never gave a credible or realistic reason why you think there isn't a God.Master Spade wrote:CleveTown™ wrote:Me and you could have an insightful discussion about God, but something tells me you are absolutely terrified of that. Because all you do is type the same supid comment in BIG RED LETTERS without actaully addressing anything spirtual at all. You are terrified of GodMaster Spade wrote:My God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your puny god
Why is THIS concept so hard for the OP to believe!?????
We could, and probably would, but you are the one preventing that. I've tried in the past to have serious discussions about this subject with you, but what you have shown is:
1. You are either a Blinded religious person that ignores everything that you don't agree with.....
or
2. You are simply in troll mode.
Which is it?
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
you have it backwards.CleveTown™ wrote:neither, actually. You never gave a credible or realistic reason why you think there isn't a God.Master Spade wrote:CleveTown™ wrote:
Me and you could have an insightful discussion about God, but something tells me you are absolutely terrified of that. Because all you do is type the same supid comment in BIG RED LETTERS without actaully addressing anything spirtual at all. You are terrified of God
We could, and probably would, but you are the one preventing that. I've tried in the past to have serious discussions about this subject with you, but what you have shown is:
1. You are either a Blinded religious person that ignores everything that you don't agree with.....
or
2. You are simply in troll mode.
Which is it?
the onus is on you to prove the existence of your god. one shred of evidence would be enough.
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book.CleveTown™ wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.Ghostown42 wrote:That's not proof.CleveTown™ wrote: well because given who God is and His nature, and the Book he gave mankind to communicate, I most assuredly believe Him and take Him at His Word that there is ONLY 1 God. Him, the Almighty Creator.
1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
So you first sentence is false. Absolutely not the case at all.
Holy
A meaningless word only validated by believers.
Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true.
Another false sentence. Absolutely not true at all.
You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
Based on your previous words, you can guarantee the invalidity of this as well. Zero evidence.
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Not that the evidence is not there, because it is, but the Bible requires that you have faith in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross if you have ever chance of getting to heaven and seeing his face.town bidness wrote:you have it backwards.CleveTown™ wrote:neither, actually. You never gave a credible or realistic reason why you think there isn't a God.Master Spade wrote:
We could, and probably would, but you are the one preventing that. I've tried in the past to have serious discussions about this subject with you, but what you have shown is:
1. You are either a Blinded religious person that ignores everything that you don't agree with.....
or
2. You are simply in troll mode.
Which is it?
the onus is on you to prove the existence of your god. one shred of evidence would be enough.
That's it! It's a free gift! And yet many still refuse it. They would rather live the way they want and Die in their own sin. Well I have a good news in Jesus Christ. And that's that he died in your place if only you would believe.
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
You need to let go of your anger towards God and open up your heart to his Son who died for you.Shill Jackson wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book.CleveTown™ wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.Ghostown42 wrote:
That's not proof.
1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
So you first sentence is false. Absolutely not the case at all.
Holy
A meaningless word only validated by believers.
Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true.
Another false sentence. Absolutely not true at all.
You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
Based on your previous words, you can guarantee the invalidity of this as well. Zero evidence.
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CleveTown™ wrote:You need to let go of your anger towards God and open up your heart to his Son who died for you.Shill Jackson wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book.CleveTown™ wrote: The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
So you first sentence is false. Absolutely not the case at all.
Holy
A meaningless word only validated by believers.
Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true.
Another false sentence. Absolutely not true at all.
You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
Based on your previous words, you can guarantee the invalidity of this as well. Zero evidence.
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
No it's not. Once again, you are merely asserting. I'm asking you to demonstrate that it's true. You have failed to do so. Why is this so difficult for you?CleveTown™ wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.Ghostown42 wrote:That's not proof.CleveTown™ wrote: well because given who God is and His nature, and the Book he gave mankind to communicate, I most assuredly believe Him and take Him at His Word that there is ONLY 1 God. Him, the Almighty Creator.
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Where did you sense any anger in his post? There is no reason to believe that anything he said was out of anger. Once again, irrational beliefs get the best of you.CleveTown™ wrote:You need to let go of your anger towards God and open up your heart to his Son who died for you.Shill Jackson wrote:The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book.CleveTown™ wrote: The Bible is proven to be a supernatural Book. Holy. Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true. You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
So you first sentence is false. Absolutely not the case at all.
Holy
A meaningless word only validated by believers.
Evident by the amount o prophesies that have come true.
Another false sentence. Absolutely not true at all.
You can gaurantee that the book is also right about who Jesus was and who GOD IS.
Based on your previous words, you can guarantee the invalidity of this as well. Zero evidence.
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Re: Why is the concept of God so hard to believe?
Christianity believes in a supreme being created flawed humans with impossible standards to live up to. Yahweh created humans flawed, yet still expected them to live up to his impossible standards, where the slightest thing you do wrong means you deserve to be tortured for all eternity. Therefore, Yahweh created a loophole where he sacrifices himself to himself to "save" people against the impossible standards he created...himself. It's ridiculous, asinine, and doesn't make any sense.CleveTown™ wrote:Not that the evidence is not there, because it is, but the Bible requires that you have faith in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross if you have ever chance of getting to heaven and seeing his face.town bidness wrote:you have it backwards.CleveTown™ wrote: neither, actually. You never gave a credible or realistic reason why you think there isn't a God.
the onus is on you to prove the existence of your god. one shred of evidence would be enough.
That's it! It's a free gift! And yet many still refuse it. They would rather live the way they want and Die in their own sin. Well I have a good news in Jesus Christ. And that's that he died in your place if only you would believe.
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God did not create us perfect BUT with free will. we took that free will and dirtied ourselves with it. WE chose sin, WE CHOSE to rebel (like Satan did) WE CHOSE our own desires.Ghostown42 wrote:Christianity believes in a supreme being created flawed humans with impossible standards to live up to. Yahweh created humans flawed, yet still expected them to live up to his impossible standards, where the slightest thing you do wrong means you deserve to be tortured for all eternity. Therefore, Yahweh created a loophole where he sacrifices himself to himself to "save" people against the impossible standards he created...himself. It's ridiculous, asinine, and doesn't make any sense.CleveTown™ wrote:Not that the evidence is not there, because it is, but the Bible requires that you have faith in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross if you have ever chance of getting to heaven and seeing his face.town bidness wrote:
you have it backwards.
the onus is on you to prove the existence of your god. one shred of evidence would be enough.
That's it! It's a free gift! And yet many still refuse it. They would rather live the way they want and Die in their own sin. Well I have a good news in Jesus Christ. And that's that he died in your place if only you would believe.
GOD CHOSE US. GOD CHOSE TO DIE FOR US. GOD CHOSE TO REDEEM US.
Praise be to God that He sent His son to die for us. Sin had left a crimson stain on the cross, but He washed it white as snow!
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