Demand for EV's falling off the cliff... madness ruined - lol

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Re: Demand for EV's falling off the cliff... madness ruined - lol

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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am
Thedictator wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:57 am

"Tesla shares fall nearly 10% after earnings decline from year-ago quarter"

Oops, meanwhile their "full self driving cars" don't even have Lidar lol

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/20/tesla-s ... -drop.html
Sales up. Profits down due to lower prices caused by higher interest rates. Total cost to consumer the same because of interest rates, yet record sales every quarter, and still healthy margins compared to others. LiDar doesnt work for FSD, thats why Google tried and failed for 30 years to create FSD.
No one disputes Tesla's status as the king of the EV industry... the issue you fail to grasp is that these cars have been around for decades (at least the hybrid's) YET as of today only 1-2% of all cars on the road in America are electric.

So you hyping up sales and profits is completely meaningless as it relates to the fact that the industry itself is going nowhere fast.

Oh, and the SURPLUS of these vehicles remains outragously YUUUGE because of the high cost to own one and the inconvenience (real or perceived) of maintaining one. Thus... Americans are not ready for mainstream EV's, and probably won't be for another 50 years.
They are throwing 8,000 credits at people to buy them. Imagine if they offered that for ICE cars
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Thedictator wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:30 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am

Sales up. Profits down due to lower prices caused by higher interest rates. Total cost to consumer the same because of interest rates, yet record sales every quarter, and still healthy margins compared to others. LiDar doesnt work for FSD, thats why Google tried and failed for 30 years to create FSD.
No one disputes Tesla's status as the king of the EV industry... the issue you fail to grasp is that these cars have been around for decades (at least the hybrid's) YET as of today only 1-2% of all cars on the road in America are electric.

So you hyping up sales and profits is completely meaningless as it relates to the fact that the industry itself is going nowhere fast.

Oh, and the SURPLUS of these vehicles remains outragously YUUUGE because of the high cost to own one and the inconvenience (real or perceived) of maintaining one. Thus... Americans are not ready for mainstream EV's, and probably won't be for another 50 years.
They are throwing 8,000 credits at people to buy them. Imagine if they offered that for ICE cars
Last time I was in the market for a car I considered a Tesla... but God damn they were soooo ugly looking I just could not justify paying that kind of money for something that looked so bad.

I opted instead for a Volvo s60 Turbo, and boy am I glad I did because those Tesla's are ugly... in fact, to me they look like an old lady car. :lol:

No thanks.
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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am
Thedictator wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:57 am

"Tesla shares fall nearly 10% after earnings decline from year-ago quarter"

Oops, meanwhile their "full self driving cars" don't even have Lidar lol

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/20/tesla-s ... -drop.html
Sales up. Profits down due to lower prices caused by higher interest rates. Total cost to consumer the same because of interest rates, yet record sales every quarter, and still healthy margins compared to others. LiDar doesnt work for FSD, thats why Google tried and failed for 30 years to create FSD.
No one disputes Tesla's status as the king of the EV industry... the issue you fail to grasp is that these cars have been around for decades (at least the hybrid's) YET as of today only 1-2% of all cars on the road in America are electric.

So you hyping up sales and profits is completely meaningless as it relates to the fact that the industry itself is going nowhere fast.

Oh, and the SURPLUS of these vehicles remains outragously YUUUGE because of the high cost to own one and the inconvenience (real or perceived) of maintaining one. Thus... Americans are not ready for mainstream EV's, and probably won't be for another 50 years.
high performance, long range electric cars have only been around as long as Tesla has been around. They invented that, and theyve sold every car theyve made. EV market share globally was 14% last year. Its about half that in the US because we are a little lower IQ, a little slower to adopt new ideas, and politicians and mainstream media are spreading misinformation about EVs, but still way more than 1-2%
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Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:35 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 am

Sales up. Profits down due to lower prices caused by higher interest rates. Total cost to consumer the same because of interest rates, yet record sales every quarter, and still healthy margins compared to others. LiDar doesnt work for FSD, thats why Google tried and failed for 30 years to create FSD.
No one disputes Tesla's status as the king of the EV industry... the issue you fail to grasp is that these cars have been around for decades (at least the hybrid's) YET as of today only 1-2% of all cars on the road in America are electric.

So you hyping up sales and profits is completely meaningless as it relates to the fact that the industry itself is going nowhere fast.

Oh, and the SURPLUS of these vehicles remains outragously YUUUGE because of the high cost to own one and the inconvenience (real or perceived) of maintaining one. Thus... Americans are not ready for mainstream EV's, and probably won't be for another 50 years.
high performance, long range electric cars have only been around as long as Tesla has been around. They invented that, and theyve sold every car theyve made. EV market share globally was 14% last year. Its about half that in the US because we are a little lower IQ, a little slower to adopt new ideas, and politicians and mainstream media are spreading misinformation about EVs, but still way more than 1-2%
J.D. Power, April 2023:

Electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the 250 million vehicles, SUVs, and light-duty trucks sold in the United States.

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-g ... e-electric


Car and Driver, August 2022:

Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3999 ... -cars-usa/

So I was wrong... it's not even 2%.

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thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:44 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:35 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 am

No one disputes Tesla's status as the king of the EV industry... the issue you fail to grasp is that these cars have been around for decades (at least the hybrid's) YET as of today only 1-2% of all cars on the road in America are electric.

So you hyping up sales and profits is completely meaningless as it relates to the fact that the industry itself is going nowhere fast.

Oh, and the SURPLUS of these vehicles remains outragously YUUUGE because of the high cost to own one and the inconvenience (real or perceived) of maintaining one. Thus... Americans are not ready for mainstream EV's, and probably won't be for another 50 years.
high performance, long range electric cars have only been around as long as Tesla has been around. They invented that, and theyve sold every car theyve made. EV market share globally was 14% last year. Its about half that in the US because we are a little lower IQ, a little slower to adopt new ideas, and politicians and mainstream media are spreading misinformation about EVs, but still way more than 1-2%
J.D. Power, April 2023:

Electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the 250 million vehicles, SUVs, and light-duty trucks sold in the United States.

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-g ... e-electric


Car and Driver, August 2022:

Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3999 ... -cars-usa/

So I was wrong... it's not even 2%.

:bronfrown:
thats total vehicles on the road in the US, including 20 year old clunkers. Tesla mass production began just a few years ago. Of new car sales worldwide, EVs make up 14% market share. In the US EVs are about 7-8%

Buying a gas car today is like buying a horse and buggy in 1910. It will be worthless in 5 years. By 2030 -you- will own an all electric vehicle, and you will pay musk for the privilege even if you dont buy a tesla.
Shut your bitch mouth, Trumpie loser
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Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:52 am
thedangerouskitchen wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:44 am
Uncontroversial wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:35 am

high performance, long range electric cars have only been around as long as Tesla has been around. They invented that, and theyve sold every car theyve made. EV market share globally was 14% last year. Its about half that in the US because we are a little lower IQ, a little slower to adopt new ideas, and politicians and mainstream media are spreading misinformation about EVs, but still way more than 1-2%
J.D. Power, April 2023:

Electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the 250 million vehicles, SUVs, and light-duty trucks sold in the United States.

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-g ... e-electric


Car and Driver, August 2022:

Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3999 ... -cars-usa/

So I was wrong... it's not even 2%.

:bronfrown:
thats total vehicles on the road in the US, including 20 year old clunkers. Tesla mass production began just a few years ago. Of new car sales worldwide, EVs make up 14% market share. In the US EVs are about 7-8%

Buying a gas car today is like buying a horse and buggy in 1910. It will be worthless in 5 years. By 2030 -you- will own an all electric vehicle, and you will pay musk for the privilege even if you dont buy a tesla.
Yes... that's what I said: Approximately 1-2% of all vehicles on the road in America are electric.

By 2030 that number might hit 3%, but when Trump is back in the White House circa 2024-28 (and gas prices drop below $2 gallon again), no one is going to drop $60k for an ugly, old lady car.

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