lettherebehouse wrote:I'm more Mexican than LNS. Quit playin
Well in that case...
lettherebehouse wrote:I'm more Mexican than LNS. Quit playin
False narrative...you clamor time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time again about how it is all the fault of many of these families who searching for a better way of life...asylum is real, but yet this is your typical response and view :FPL wrote:While I'm happy to discuss politics with riley on most issues, I won't on this topic. Here's why, and how every thread turns out:
(1) FPL opens and reads thread, says he dislikes immigration,
(2) riley says "go after the employers, they're the ones enticing people to come here"
(3) FPL says he's in favor of that, and has always been, and used to be a Dem before they supported immigrants
(4) riley asks "then why support the GOP? they exploit cheap labor, and have been for decades"
(5) FPL says that he supports the GOP precisely because the chamber of commerce wing is losing influence
(6) riley repeats "but they're not doing anything. you're a hypocrite"
(7) FPL says he wants them to do more, and for chamber GOPers to be voted out, and they're moving in that direction
(8) Thread devolves into some strawman (like that there were no aliens in the past)
Waste of time. By the way, we can remove other incentives too, like welfare for immigrants, birthright citizenship, chain migration, etc.
Air Force flunky...ripper76 wrote:Caedite eos.
That's why it isn't stopped. No administration really wants to stop it, they just appease the masses with talks of laws and walls. Riley is right, if they wanted to stop it they would crack down on employers.Madnessssss wrote:Hiring illegals for cheap labor is actually good for the economyrileymartin wrote:False narrative...you clamor time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time, and time again about how it is all the fault of many of these families who searching for a better way of life...asylum is real, but yet this is your typical response and view :FPL wrote:While I'm happy to discuss politics with riley on most issues, I won't on this topic. Here's why, and how every thread turns out:
(1) FPL opens and reads thread, says he dislikes immigration,
(2) riley says "go after the employers, they're the ones enticing people to come here"
(3) FPL says he's in favor of that, and has always been, and used to be a Dem before they supported immigrants
(4) riley asks "then why support the GOP? they exploit cheap labor, and have been for decades"
(5) FPL says that he supports the GOP precisely because the chamber of commerce wing is losing influence
(6) riley repeats "but they're not doing anything. you're a hypocrite"
(7) FPL says he wants them to do more, and for chamber GOPers to be voted out, and they're moving in that direction
(8) Thread devolves into some strawman (like that there were no aliens in the past)
Waste of time. By the way, we can remove other incentives too, like welfare for immigrants, birthright citizenship, chain migration, etc.
"These illegal aliens, minors or otherwise, are still choosing to come to the country. Nobody is forcing them to (aside from maybe their parents or kidnappers), and nobody is preventing them from staying in Mexico or wherever.
Doesn't a country have the right to choose who can and cannot enter?"
When I bring up that the very reason they come is because we are practically inviting them, you half heartedly pretend that oh yea, you are for that too...You want to spend 50 billion dollars for a wall to protect yourself from knowingly hiring illegals instead of simply not hiring them LOL...Illegals come here because we give them the incentive to...Fix that shit first. that should be the easy part...
And, I have always voted more Republican than democrat in presidential elections, and almost exclusively Republican in lower, state level elections. The reason you get frustrated with me is because you aren't honest...
Facebook.elartman1973 wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:
No it isn't. Children should not be kept in those conditions. There is the Universal Declaration of Human rights article 5 in particular. Article 5. - No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.Robceltsfan wrote:It really isn’t. It’s the very crux of the topic.elartman1973 wrote:Irrelevent to the topic.FPL wrote:Arty - These illegal aliens, minors or otherwise, are still choosing to come to the country. Nobody is forcing them to (aside from maybe their parents or kidnappers), and nobody is preventing them from staying in Mexico or wherever.
Doesn't a country have the right to choose who can and cannot enter?
How do you feel about the open Canadian border?PhutureDynasty wrote:I don't know what's going on with the children at the borders to be honest.
I will say that it is unfortunate that these people feel forced to leave their own country and enter another with the hope for a better life.
However, they are breaking the laws of the country they enter by being an illegal citizen. Is that fair for those who mean well and are trying to make a life for themselves and their children? No. It's not.
But, you can not have an open border policy where anyone can just cross over unchecked. That's an easy way to allow terrorists through our southern border.
It's not a black and white situation and I understand why this has become a big talking point amongst the politicians and citizens alike, but we have to keep the safety of our citizens as a priority. America has to come first.
GTFO, you and your 4 previous generations. Only true blue Americans should be here. WASP if you willLNS wrote:rileymartin wrote:So what you are saying then is, not only did you once tell me that your boy LNS is dumb, but now you are suggesting that he needs to be kicked the fuck out of this country?lettherebehouse wrote:
I do my own yard and service my own pool. Well actually, them brown AF kids of mine do it as part of their chores so I guess you're almost right.
I (unfortunately) don’t even speak Spanish you moron. I’m like 5th generation for crying out loud.... Jesus Christ the narratives here...
When you stop crying about it. Just get married to Gary or whatever his name isDa Stars. wrote:elartman1973 wrote:
You mean like having Gay Pride month is not shoving an agenda down our throats. When are we going to have white pride month. Millatary month.
He was an idiot who didn't read the Constitution. No National language is declared.FPL wrote:
Its not shoved down your throat at all...not like st Patrick's day parade is...which is shoving Irish and Catholicism down our throats.Da Stars. wrote:elartman1973 wrote:
You mean like having Gay Pride month is not shoving an agenda down our throats. When are we going to have white pride month. Millatary month.
Because it says so in the constitution and that's what makes this the greatest country on earth...lol at not even having a clue what you claim to be protectingChooch wrote:And this is the United States' responsibility to care for children in need why exactly?
elartman1973 wrote:Its not shoved down your throat at all...not like st Patrick's day parade is...which is shoving Irish and Catholicism down our throats.
Assuming there's ways to just cross over from Canada to here undetected than I'd propose better border security.LookAway wrote:How do you feel about the open Canadian border?PhutureDynasty wrote:I don't know what's going on with the children at the borders to be honest.
I will say that it is unfortunate that these people feel forced to leave their own country and enter another with the hope for a better life.
However, they are breaking the laws of the country they enter by being an illegal citizen. Is that fair for those who mean well and are trying to make a life for themselves and their children? No. It's not.
But, you can not have an open border policy where anyone can just cross over unchecked. That's an easy way to allow terrorists through our southern border.
It's not a black and white situation and I understand why this has become a big talking point amongst the politicians and citizens alike, but we have to keep the safety of our citizens as a priority. America has to come first.