Better career stats? Kareem or Jordan?

[paskeezy3000]

I'm not narrowing down to the NBA, I'm talking entire basketball arc

He's trolling. There's nothing about those stats that say Jordan's were better than Kareem's.

Besides any and all context, which has been pointed out to you by many.

What kind of context do you need? Do you know who Kareem and Jordan are? Who they played for? With? Who they played against? We all have enough context to look at those stats and decide.

[DorianRo]

Kareem has nothing on Jordan other than More all time point totals (Which Jordan would have BLEW Out of the water had he not retired twice)

I know you're ignorant as fuck and I know I shouldn't be trying but did you see the stats I posted in this thread?

Dumbass... What the hell are you doing comparing certain percentages between a CENTER and a GUARD with stupid shit like FG percentages or rebounds?

Jordan has it where it counts the most. Go to bed turd

[town bidness]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

[DorianRo]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

[Repeat3peat]

He's trolling. There's nothing about those stats that say Jordan's were better than Kareem's.

Besides any and all context, which has been pointed out to you by many.

What kind of context do you need? Do you know who Kareem and Jordan are? Who they played for? With? Who they played against? We all have enough context to look at those stats and decide.

Let's see
-ABA
-positions they played
-One was completely reliant upon others to get them the ball in position to score.....

for starters.

At least the agenda has been "revealed".

[paskeezy3000]

Kareem has nothing on Jordan other than More all time point totals (Which Jordan would have BLEW Out of the water had he not retired twice)

I know you're ignorant as fuck and I know I shouldn't be trying but did you see the stats I posted in this thread?

Dumbass... What the hell are you doing comparing certain percentages between a CENTER and a GUARD with stupid shit like FG percentages or rebounds?

Jordan has it where it counts the most. Go to bed turd

I included all the basic stats that the nba keeps track of. Some favor a big and some favor a wing player. Wtf are you talking about? Are you retarded?

[town bidness]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

[Smelters]

I'd take either one but I'd go with MJ slightly. Kareem (Lew Alcindor) got some titles when he was old running with that loaded Laker team.

[paskeezy3000]

Besides any and all context, which has been pointed out to you by many.

What kind of context do you need? Do you know who Kareem and Jordan are? Who they played for? With? Who they played against? We all have enough context to look at those stats and decide.

Let's see
-ABA
-positions they played
-One was completely reliant upon others to get them the ball in position to score.....

for starters.

At least the agenda has been "revealed".

Weak sauce.

[DorianRo]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

91 Lakers were a great team
92 Blazers were a great so were the 92 Knicks
93 Suns were AWESOME and would shit on any team in the league today
96 Sonics and Pacers would shit on any team in the game today
97-98 Jazz were extremely good

Quit confusing the 90s (the era of all time great Centers and defensive talent perimeter players to this trash one we see now where teams with .400 records can be 3 seeds

[Repeat3peat]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

The tepid era is the East now.....followed closely by the West of Magic and Kareem.

lol

[DorianRo]

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

The tepid era is the East now.....followed closely by the West of Magic and Kareem.

lol

Yea the real teams in the league at the time of the 80s were in the East. Good point.

[town bidness]

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

The tepid era is the East now.....followed closely by the West of Magic and Kareem.

lol

what excuse does jordan have for only getting to the finals 6 times? magic practically spent his entire career in the finals with AND without kareem. even kobe made more finals with a juggernaut in the same conference.

kareem took the big o in his last year to the promised land. jordan on the other hand... didnt do so well without the dpoy-less pippen did he?

#1 all time points leader, #3 all time rebounds and blocks. more all star games, more all defensive teams, #1 all time playoff blocks, #2 all time playoff points, #4 all time playoff rebounds and is the first player to play 20 years, more finals, bring rings to EVERY team he played for going back to hs and is the god of hs ball, college basketball and the nba.

jordan will always have hanes commercial and mass appeal. kareem didnt ingratiate himself to the fans or media so he isnt viewed as favorably but who cares about that but airheads and moron sports writers?

pick a standard. is it success? kareem got jordan. stats? kareem is the greatest at what he did best during his time... hoisting up shots.

[elmerjfudd]

Stats Jordan, he could fill up a box score better than anyone. That said Kareem and Russell stand alone as the two best basketball players to ever play.

[Smelters]

for anyone picking jordan simply pick a standard and apply it equally across the board.

good luck trying to rationalize it... cap is the god of all bball.

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

MJ was great on smaller, quick guards like Isiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson. That's why it was almost shocking when AI crossed over on MJ (who still almost blocked AI's shot). MJ was great in the passing lanes and help defense also.

Both were great defenders though.

[Shill Jackson]

10 scoring titles
6 FMVP with 6'ships UNDEFEATED in the finals
30.1 ppg career regular season record
33 pppg career post season numbers Most DOMINANT numbers ever (While Kareem's post season numbers are a drop in the toilet bowl next to that)
5 regular season MVPs
DPOY


Thats all I need to rationalize. Those are the FACTS. Jordan is GOAT. No one is close

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

91 Lakers were a great team
92 Blazers were a great so were the 92 Knicks
93 Suns were AWESOME and would shit on any team in the league today
96 Sonics and Pacers would shit on any team in the game today
97-98 Jazz were extremely good

Quit confusing the 90s (the era of all time great Centers and defensive talent perimeter players to this trash one we see now where teams with .400 records can be 3 seeds

Everyone knows the 90s were the weakest decade of the NBA.

Kareem won in HS, College and the Pros.
Greatest basketball player of all time.

[town bidness]

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

The tepid era is the East now.....followed closely by the West of Magic and Kareem.

lol

Yea the real teams in the league at the time of the 80s were in the East. Good point.

it's an excuse. the ENTIRE LEAGUE was weak in the 90s. as long as kareem was in the league.. jordan didnt do squat.

[Deez]

Kareem is great but he'll always fall 2nd to the Goat Jordan.

[paskeezy3000]

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

The tepid era is the East now.....followed closely by the West of Magic and Kareem.

lol

what excuse does jordan have for only getting to the finals 6 times? magic practically spent his entire career in the finals with AND without kareem. even kobe made more finals with a juggernaut in the same conference.

kareem took the big o in his last year to the promised land. jordan on the other hand... didnt do so well without the dpoy-less pippen did he?

#1 all time points leader, #3 all time rebounds and blocks. more all star games, more all defensive teams, #1 all time playoff blocks, #2 all time playoff points, #4 all time playoff rebounds and is the first player to play 20 years, more finals, bring rings to EVERY team he played for going back to hs and is the god of hs ball, college basketball and the nba.

jordan will always have hanes commercial and mass appeal. kareem didnt ingratiate himself to the fans or media so he isnt viewed as favorably but who cares about that but airheads and moron sports writers?

pick a standard. is it success? kareem got jordan. stats? kareem is the greatest at what he did best during his time... hoisting up shots.

He'd at least be #2 in blocks if they kept track of them his first 4 years in the league (thanks Havlicek)

[DorianRo]

Until someone can replicate everything Jordan has done from an individual perspective, there is no hater who has a pot to piss on, a leg to stand on.


Another thing to point out, Jordan never once a had a dominant BIG to win ANY of his 6 titles. In an era with all time great centers. Thats insane in itself.

Jordan is the universal hands down GOAT for a reason. Not Kareem. Not Kobe. Not Lebron. Not Russell.

Simply because no one was as dominant as Jordan between the regular season/Post season. No one has the individual accolades Jordan has.

No one dominated the game to the degree Jordan did. No one could do the things on a basketball court that Jordan could do. Jordan was the personification of basketball PERFECTION.