TOP 5 MVP candidates

[elmouse03]

Still a lot of season left to play. Just have to wait and see how it plays out.

[Bush4Ever]

I'd be very surprised if Lebron wins it.

He's stepped back a half-gear since his peak, especially on defense, and there are too many mega-producers this year for him to win it.

Basically, the Clippers need to fall off (Paul), Durant and Curry need to be close enough to split the GS votes, and the Thunder need to stay out of the elite/near-elite places in the standings.

And that's not even considering borderline cases like Kawaii or even Jimmy Butler.

I think everyone knows Lebron still has the crown...it just won't be reflected in the MVP vote, much like Jordan losing to Barkley or Malone...with the real action coming in the playoffs.

[Shill Jackson]

I'd be very surprised if Lebron wins it.

He's stepped back a half-gear since his peak, especially on defense, and there are too many mega-producers this year for him to win it.

Basically, the Clippers need to fall off (Paul), Durant and Curry need to be close enough to split the GS votes, and the Thunder need to stay out of the elite/near-elite places in the standings.

And that's not even considering borderline cases like Kawaii or even Jimmy Butler.

I think everyone knows Lebron still has the crown...it just won't be reflected in the MVP vote, much like Jordan losing to Barkley or Malone...with the real action coming in the playoffs.

I don't know if I agree that he has stepped back on defense.
IMO, he's always been poor at it.

[gaskill15]

Still a lot of season left to play. Just have to wait and see how it plays out.

Thank you for this captivating response.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Picked James before the season... sticking with it now.

[Jims_Doors]

Since when did Griff monkey care about the MVP award? He's always said it's just a worthless media driven award.

Could it be that's because Kobe's only won 1 and that was basically given to him as a lifetime achievement award? Everyone one knows that CP3 should have won it that year it was gifted to Kobe.


No chance KD wins it while on the super team.
Not sure if Russ or Harden can get their teams enough wins.

Comes down to Kawhi or James with James winning it and even further distancing himself from Kobe on the all-time list

[Kennethgriffin]

Since when did Griff monkey care about the MVP award? He's always said it's just a worthless media driven award.

Could it be that's because Kobe's only won 1 and that was basically given to him as a lifetime achievement award? Everyone one knows that CP3 should have won it that year it was gifted to Kobe.


No chance KD wins it while on the super team.
Not sure if Russ or Harden can get their teams enough wins.

Comes down to Kawhi or James with James winning it and even further distancing himself from Kobe on the all-time list

well its obviously worth something regardless if nash has more than shaq/kobe/oscar/hakeem


the media ruining half of kobes legacy isn't important anymore. what matters is the media gets it right going forward


and they can give lebron 6-7-8 mvps if they want by gifting him awards whenever they feel bored... but it wont look good the minute he steps past the GOAT michael jordan in number of awards

i think if lebron fans wanna keep what little prestige is left in the trophy theyel wanna stay 1 back of jordan .... because once you make a mockery of the award by having more than the GOAT.... then jordan fans will see what kobe fans see

and its all downhill from there

[elmouse03]

Still a lot of season left to play. Just have to wait and see how it plays out.

Thank you for this captivating response.

You are very welcome.

[elmouse03]

Since when did Griff monkey care about the MVP award? He's always said it's just a worthless media driven award.

Could it be that's because Kobe's only won 1 and that was basically given to him as a lifetime achievement award? Everyone one knows that CP3 should have won it that year it was gifted to Kobe.


No chance KD wins it while on the super team.
Not sure if Russ or Harden can get their teams enough wins.

Comes down to Kawhi or James with James winning it and even further distancing himself from Kobe on the all-time list

[Jims_Doors]

Since when did Griff monkey care about the MVP award? He's always said it's just a worthless media driven award.

Could it be that's because Kobe's only won 1 and that was basically given to him as a lifetime achievement award? Everyone one knows that CP3 should have won it that year it was gifted to Kobe.


No chance KD wins it while on the super team.
Not sure if Russ or Harden can get their teams enough wins.

Comes down to Kawhi or James with James winning it and even further distancing himself from Kobe on the all-time list

well its obviously worth something regardless if nash has more than shaq/kobe/oscar/hakeem


the media ruining half of kobes legacy isn't important anymore. what matters is the media gets it right going forward


and they can give lebron 6-7-8 mvps if they want by gifting him awards whenever they feel bored... but it wont look good the minute he steps past the GOAT michael jordan in number of awards

i think if lebron fans wanna keep what little prestige is left in the trophy theyel wanna stay 1 back of jordan .... because once you make a mockery of the award by having more than the GOAT.... then jordan fans will see what kobe fans see

and its all downhill from there

How can it be "anymore" when it never began in the first place? The media isn't the one who committed rape, demanded to be traded, feuded with coaches and teammates etc...etc...


Maybe if Jordan didn't quit the league for almost 2yrs, while in his prime, he might have a few more MVP awards which would make him harder to surpass. No one to blame but himself for quitting.

[lettherebehouse]

Griff still clinging onto the idea that Kobe >>>> Lebron. If you just look at the way he dresses, poor Griff just has no idea how to evolve.

[Kennethgriffin]

real mvps of the league

1999 - shaq
2000 - shaq
2001 - shaq
2002 - shaq
2003 - kobe
2004 - garnett
2005 - shaq
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe
2011 - KD
2012 - KD
2013 - kobe
2014 - KD
2015 - Harden
2016 - curry

[Titan18]

Jimmy Butler

26/7/4 on 49%/43%/89%
Top 3 defensive wing
5th in PER
2nd in win shares
4th seed (same record as 2nd seed)

I don't think he should or will win but he's certainly a candidate this early in the season. Especially if Demar Derozen is.

[elmouse03]

Griff still clinging onto the idea that Kobe >>>> Lebron. If you just look at the way he dresses, poor Griff just has no idea how to evolve.

Griff is gonna make one of his super long posts if you don't watch it.

[Kennethgriffin]

Griff still clinging onto the idea that Kobe >>>> Lebron. If you just look at the way he dresses, poor Griff just has no idea how to evolve.

Griff is gonna make one of his super long posts if you don't watch it.

kobe should be a 6 time mvp

lebron should be a 0 time mvp


running away in the leastern conference on bullshit teams with rigged colluded teammates shouldn't win anyone any kind of regular season award


and prime kobe in the west taking his team to basically the exact same record as lebron is also worth allot more than it got credit for

[Kennethgriffin]

if the players voted for mvp like they did with kareem... even lebron would have voted for kobe

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2009 = lebron wins mvp... says kobes the best ... LOOL

[lettherebehouse]

if the players voted for mvp like they did with kareem... even lebron would have voted for kobe

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2009 = lebron wins mvp... says kobes the best ... LOOL

Congrats?

[Jims_Doors]

real mvps of the league

1999 - shaq
2000 - shaq
2001 - shaq
2002 - shaq
2003 - kobe
2004 - garnett
2005 - shaq
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe
2011 - KD
2012 - KD
2013 - kobe
2014 - KD
2015 - Harden
2016 - curry

you know the criteria, Dudley.....gotta have the team record, LA didn't

[elmouse03]

real mvps of the league

1999 - shaq
2000 - shaq
2001 - shaq
2002 - shaq
2003 - kobe
2004 - garnett
2005 - shaq
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe
2011 - KD
2012 - KD
2013 - kobe
2014 - KD
2015 - Harden
2016 - curry

you know the criteria, Dudley.....gotta have the team record, LA didn't

Well Kobe did win in 08.

[3effs]

Has Thomas of the Celtics been mentioned in this thread?

He's averaging 26/6. If the Celtics take off and can get the 2 seed then he could very well end up being MVP. I've been calling him a dark horse since the preseason.