2014 Anger General Geatest of All Time: #20 selection

[Deez]

Andrew Bynum.

Don't be a fag. Serious votes only

[876Stephen]

How are you voting for Barry ?

He just feels Barry is better. Nobody has a problem with his vote.

Hasn't he voted for him for multiple rounds though?

Its become quite futile since it doesnt look anyone will be voting for him for a while.

Oh well.

[ripper76]

Wade

[vcsgrizzfan]

Havlicek

[americaninfidel]

Isiah

[AbeVigodaLive]

Baylor. But Havlicek is pretty tempting too

[Bush4Ever]

Hondo.

I'm not saying this because of Abe's bitching, but I do feel bad about Baylor dropping this low.

Those 13/14-probably about 23 spots are very tight, which will misrepresent the guys at the back end of that spectrum a bit.

Hondo = Poor Man's Kobe. Or maybe not poor man's Kobe. Working class man's Kobe?

[AbeVigodaLive]

Hondo.

I'm not saying this because of Abe's bitching, but I do feel bad about Baylor dropping this low.

Those 13/14-probably about 23 spots are very tight, which will misrepresent the guys at the back end of that spectrum a bit.

Hondo = Poor Man's Kobe. Or maybe not poor man's Kobe. Working class man's Kobe?

The argument against Baylor is a strong one. Heck, it's one I've used against him before (0 titles). I have not problem with Hondo or Baylor here.

[Havlicekstealsit]

Elgin Gay Baylor.


No really that's his middle name lulz

[elmouse03]

Elgin Gay Baylor.


No really that's his middle name lulz

LNS already beat you to this.

[dwcmwa]

Pippen

[Y2K]

So here's the argument for John Havlicek:

Points 26,395 (20.8 ppg)
Rebounds 8,007 (6.3 rpg)
Assists 6,114 (4.8 apg)

8× NBA champion (1963–1966, 1968–1969, 1974, 1976)
NBA Finals MVP (1974)
13× NBA All-Star (1966–1978)
4× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974)
7× All-NBA Second Team (1964, 1966, 1968–1970, 1975–1976)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1972–1976)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1969–1971)
Boston Celtics all-time leading scorer


Look at his career post-Rusell:

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Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos    G GS   MP   FG  FGA  FG% 3P 3PA 3P%   2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
1969-70    29 BOS NBA  SG   81    41.6  9.1 19.6 .464             9.1 19.6 .464 6.0 7.1 .844         7.8 6.8             2.6 24.2
1970-71    30 BOS NBA  SF   81    45.4 11.0 24.5 .450            11.0 24.5 .450 6.8 8.4 .818         9.0 7.5             2.5 28.9
1971-72    31 BOS NBA  SF   82    45.1 10.9 23.9 .458            10.9 23.9 .458 5.6 6.7 .834         8.2 7.5             2.2 27.5
1972-73    32 BOS NBA  SF   80    42.1  9.6 21.3 .450             9.6 21.3 .450 4.6 5.4 .858         7.1 6.6             2.4 23.8
1973-74    33 BOS NBA  SF   76    40.7  9.0 19.8 .456             9.0 19.8 .456 4.6 5.5 .832 1.8 4.6 6.4 5.9 1.3 0.4     2.6 22.6
1974-75    34 BOS NBA  SF   82    38.2  7.8 17.2 .455             7.8 17.2 .455 3.5 4.0 .870 1.9 4.0 5.9 5.3 1.3 0.2     2.8 19.2
1975-76    35 BOS NBA  SF   76    34.2  6.6 14.8 .450             6.6 14.8 .450 3.7 4.4 .844 1.5 2.6 4.1 3.7 1.3 0.4     2.7 17.0
1976-77    36 BOS NBA  SF   79    36.9  7.3 16.2 .452             7.3 16.2 .452 3.0 3.6 .816 1.4 3.5 4.8 5.1 1.1 0.2     2.6 17.7
1977-78    37 BOS NBA  SF   82    34.1  6.7 14.8 .449             6.7 14.8 .449 2.8 3.3 .855 1.1 2.9 4.0 4.0 1.1 0.3 2.5 2.3 16.1
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2× NBA champion 1974, 1976
NBA Finals MVP (1974)
9× NBA All-Star (1970–1978)
4× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974)
3× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1975–1976)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1972–1976)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970–1971)

[FPL]

Hondo also was a great defender. Tons of energy, tremendous longevity.

I think he was actually drafted by an NFL team as well? Pretty cool.

[elmouse03]

So here's the argument for John Havlicek:

Points 26,395 (20.8 ppg)
Rebounds 8,007 (6.3 rpg)
Assists 6,114 (4.8 apg)

8× NBA champion (1963–1966, 1968–1969, 1974, 1976)
NBA Finals MVP (1974)
13× NBA All-Star (1966–1978)
4× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974)
7× All-NBA Second Team (1964, 1966, 1968–1970, 1975–1976)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1972–1976)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1969–1971)
Boston Celtics all-time leading scorer


Look at his career post-Rusell:

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Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos    G GS   MP   FG  FGA  FG% 3P 3PA 3P%   2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
1969-70    29 BOS NBA  SG   81    41.6  9.1 19.6 .464             9.1 19.6 .464 6.0 7.1 .844         7.8 6.8             2.6 24.2
1970-71    30 BOS NBA  SF   81    45.4 11.0 24.5 .450            11.0 24.5 .450 6.8 8.4 .818         9.0 7.5             2.5 28.9
1971-72    31 BOS NBA  SF   82    45.1 10.9 23.9 .458            10.9 23.9 .458 5.6 6.7 .834         8.2 7.5             2.2 27.5
1972-73    32 BOS NBA  SF   80    42.1  9.6 21.3 .450             9.6 21.3 .450 4.6 5.4 .858         7.1 6.6             2.4 23.8
1973-74    33 BOS NBA  SF   76    40.7  9.0 19.8 .456             9.0 19.8 .456 4.6 5.5 .832 1.8 4.6 6.4 5.9 1.3 0.4     2.6 22.6
1974-75    34 BOS NBA  SF   82    38.2  7.8 17.2 .455             7.8 17.2 .455 3.5 4.0 .870 1.9 4.0 5.9 5.3 1.3 0.2     2.8 19.2
1975-76    35 BOS NBA  SF   76    34.2  6.6 14.8 .450             6.6 14.8 .450 3.7 4.4 .844 1.5 2.6 4.1 3.7 1.3 0.4     2.7 17.0
1976-77    36 BOS NBA  SF   79    36.9  7.3 16.2 .452             7.3 16.2 .452 3.0 3.6 .816 1.4 3.5 4.8 5.1 1.1 0.2     2.6 17.7
1977-78    37 BOS NBA  SF   82    34.1  6.7 14.8 .449             6.7 14.8 .449 2.8 3.3 .855 1.1 2.9 4.0 4.0 1.1 0.3 2.5 2.3 16.1
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2× NBA champion 1974, 1976
NBA Finals MVP (1974)
9× NBA All-Star (1970–1978)
4× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974)
3× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1975–1976)
5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1972–1976)
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970–1971)

He really took off after Red retired because Red kept him as the 6th man but when Russell took over as HC he pretty much started him and Hondo really had a great 69 Finals.

[Havlicekstealsit]

Hondo also was a great defender. Tons of energy, tremendous longevity.

I think he was actually drafted by an NFL team as well? Pretty cool.

Yes, the Browns. Actually went to their training camp too.

[Y2K]

Hondo also was a great defender. Tons of energy, tremendous longevity.

I think he was actually drafted by an NFL team as well? Pretty cool.

He was the NBA's all-time leader in games played at the time of his retirement. He also ranked in the NBA's top 10 in minutes played and in total points. Recall, he was a 6th man for the first 7 years of his career.

[dwcmwa]

Hondo is definitely worthy to be picked around this area, but Pippen and Baylor are both slightly better.

Pippen, Baylor, Hondo should be the next 3 choices.

Bronze, KoMe and KG all way too high on this list though.

[876Stephen]

I would vote Hondo ahead of Baylor with out hesitation.

[dwcmwa]

I would vote Hondo ahead of Baylor with out hesitation.

Because you're a Baylor Hater.

[876Stephen]

I would vote Hondo ahead of Baylor with out hesitation.

Because you're a Baylor Hater.

Please list what Baylor has accomplished to have him ranked ahead of Hondo or Barry or Malone or Kg or Dirk etc other than the gaudy(inefficient)scoring and rebounding.

Abe hasn't done it yet.

And if Abe can't , there's no way u can.