Can someone please explain why today's "superior athletes" need a full 1 week off for the AS break...?

[Havlicekstealsit]

Because it's high comedy watching Boomers cry about it.

Seriously. Like this is the type of shit they're whining about.

[thedangerouskitchen]

I'm not even arguing it's a good thing.

I'm simply pointing out that Lebron shoved around Silver, while Jordan meekly submitted to Stern.

If Jordan could have fought for longer breaks, he absolutely would have, considering he took a huge break in his 2nd year, and again after the 1993 season. He clearly wasn't opposed to long breaks as a concept. He COULDN'T do it because he was SCARED of Stern.

Lebron did what Jordan was too petrified to even attempt to do.

Wrong again.

Silver is a "woke" coward and LeFraud is a cream-puff soft pussy who has done everything in his power for the past 15 years to take the "easy way out". Jordan didn't fight Stern's authority because he didn't "need" to take the easy-way-out like LeFraud.

Facts.

Walk it off...

[thedangerouskitchen]

Because it's high comedy watching Boomers cry about it.

Seriously. Like this is the type of shit they're whining about.

Since when is asking a question considered 'whining'?

All I hear on this board is how much bigger, better, more athletic, stronger, more physically fit today's NBA players are YET they are pampered and coddled like never before in league history (and certainly far more than the 'alleged' inferior players from the past).

So naturally one's curiosity takes hold, and you wonder why these (alleged) superior athletes need sooooo much extra help, is all.

It's a legit question.

[Bush4Ever.]

Jordan didn't fight Stern's authority because he didn't "need" to take the easy-way-out like LeFraud.

He literally did that THREE times in his career by taking extra time off (2nd year, first retirement, second retirement which was still earlier than it should have been).

You are arguing he wouldn't do things once he did multiple times in his career.

Jordan WANTED it, but was scared to try.

Lebron wanted it, and did it.

Even if the thing is bad or overextended...they both WANTED it...but only Lebron had the courage to make it happen.

[Bush4Ever.]

So naturally one's curiosity takes hold, and you wonder why these (alleged) superior athletes need sooooo much extra help, is all.

It's a legit question.

It's been answered, dummy.

They don't NEED it.

They TOOK it because they WANTED it (who wouldn't want better working conditions), and could make it happen (unlike Jordan who wanted it but couldn't fight for it).

[thedangerouskitchen]

Jordan didn't fight Stern's authority because he didn't "need" to take the easy-way-out like LeFraud.

He literally did that THREE times in his career by taking extra time off (2nd year, first retirement, second retirement which was still earlier than it should have been).

You are arguing he wouldn't do things once he did multiple times in his career.

Jordan WANTED it, but was scared to try.

Lebron wanted it, and did it.

Even if the thing is bad or overextended...they both WANTED it...but only Lebron had the courage to make it happen.

Jordan didm't "take" his second year off, he broke his leg. In 94 he retired to play another professional sport, he wasn't taking time off sitting around on the couch all day. And no one takes his stint with the Wizards seriously EXCEPT to note that even at 40 years old he was still going all-out on both ends of the court (which is something LeFraud hasn't done in over a decade).

Fact: LeFraud has been taking easy-way-out in every possible wau imaginable since 2011, when he wasn't good enough to lead back-to-back 60+ win / #1 seeds past LOWER seeds, so he colluded with two other HOFERS to form a Super Team.

You're losing this debate worse than LeFraud loses in the Finals...

[Bush4Ever.]

Jordan didm't "take" his second year off, he broke his leg. In 94 he retired to play another professional sport, he wasn't taking time off sitting around on the couch all day. And no one takes his stint with the Wizards seriously EXCEPT to note that even at 40 years old he was still going all-out on both ends of the court (which is something LeFraud hasn't done in over a decade).

Spin it some more, TDK.

He wasn't playing in most of 1986, 1994, most of 1995, or 1999-2000.

A modern athlete is playing (even if it was 65 games) all those types of seasons.

Jordan had a MORE relaxed schedule than a modern athlete.

His multiyear breaks MORE than covered the amount of missed game a modern athlete will miss in total.

How many NBA players in 2024 have retired from emotional boo-boos like Jordan did after 1993?

Zero.

[thedangerouskitchen]

So naturally one's curiosity takes hold, and you wonder why these (alleged) superior athletes need sooooo much extra help, is all.

It's a legit question.

It's been answered, dummy.

They don't NEED it.

They TOOK it because they WANTED it (who wouldn't want better working conditions), and could make it happen (unlike Jordan who wanted it but couldn't fight for it).

Perhaps the league as a whole didn't "need" it (you don't know that for sure of course), but LeFraud certainly did... as he's been taking the "easy way out" his entire career.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Jordan didm't "take" his second year off, he broke his leg. In 94 he retired to play another professional sport, he wasn't taking time off sitting around on the couch all day. And no one takes his stint with the Wizards seriously EXCEPT to note that even at 40 years old he was still going all-out on both ends of the court (which is something LeFraud hasn't done in over a decade).

Spin it some more, TDK.

He wasn't playing in most of 1986, 1994, most of 1995, or 1999-2000.

A modern athlete is playing (even if it was 65 games) all those types of seasons.

Jordan had a MORE relaxed schedule than a modern athlete.

His multiyear breaks MORE than covered the amount of missed game a modern athlete will miss in total.

How many NBA players in 2024 have retired from emotional boo-boos like Jordan did after 1993?

Zero.

I'm not spinning anything... you said Jordan "needed" to take the easy way out like LeBron has done the past 14 years... I explained why you're wrong yet again, and you can't handle it.

Fact.

Walk it off.

[Bush4Ever.]

I'm not spinning anything... you said Jordan "needed" to take the easy way out l

Uhh...he retired genius. If he didn't think he had to retire, he wouldn't have.

He was in full control of his career at those points, and he retired early TWICE.

He needed to retire after 1993 because of his emotional boo-boos, and after 1998 because he knew the protective cocoon of the Bulls was going away and he would have been exposed if he had continued to play as only being a winner because of said cocoon.

By the way, this topic is a marker of Jordan Jocker status. Jordan being a top 10/5/3 or even 1 player debate is fine, him being better than Lebron (or not) is a fine discussion.

But discussions claiming he was the ultimate "show up to work" guy or ultimate winner in basketball automatically indicate Jordan Jocker status, and raises the likely the person in question is simply sexually attracted to Jordan and defending "their man" (in their minds).

[Robceltsfan]

A LOT of deflection from Drunko in the above post.

You didn't refute my VERY CLEAR evidence that Lebron played WAY more minutes than Jordan over the same time period.

GG's my guy!

Duh... he played more minutes because in your cherry-picked range MJ missed nearly 2 full seasons (1 to injury and 1 to retirement).

Jordan: 38.3 min for his career / 9 season playing all 82 games / 11 playing 80 or more
LeFraud: 38.0 min for his career / 1 season playing all 82 games / 3 seasons playing 80 or more

LeFraud finishes in Second Place... yet again.

You’re sitting here whining about a week….and Jordan needed LITERAL YEARS off!!!!

WoW!!!

[thedangerouskitchen]

I'm not spinning anything... you said Jordan "needed" to take the easy way out l

Uhh...he retired genius. If he didn't think he had to retire, he wouldn't have.

He was in full control of his career at those points, and he retired early TWICE.

He needed to retire after 1993 because of his emotional boo-boos, and after 1998 because he knew the protective cocoon of the Bulls was going away and he would have been exposed if he had continued to play as only being a winner because of said cocoon.

By the way, this topic is a marker of Jordan Jocker status. Jordan being a top 10/5/3 or even 1 player debate is fine, him being better than Lebron (or not) is a fine discussion.

But discussions claiming he was the ultimate "show up to work" guy or ultimate winner in basketball automatically indicate Jordan Jocker status, and raises the likely the person in question is simply sexually attracted to Jordan and defending "their man" (in their minds).

Wrong again, dummy... on so many levels.

Jordan "chose" to retire after the 93 season (after capping off a 3-Peat in dominating fashion) because, in his own words, there was nothing left for him to prove... and so he left the game (as the undisputed best player in history) to play another professional sport, not to chill in the Caribbean.

You pretending it had something to do with "emotional boo-boos" (whatever that means - lol) holds about as much credibility as artman's takes on politics.

And BTW, any time you feel compelled to state your argument for LeFraud over MJ feel free to have at it, and I'll shred you to pieces with ease... guaranteed.

[thedangerouskitchen]

A LOT of deflection from Drunko in the above post.

You didn't refute my VERY CLEAR evidence that Lebron played WAY more minutes than Jordan over the same time period.

GG's my guy!

Duh... he played more minutes because in your cherry-picked range MJ missed nearly 2 full seasons (1 to injury and 1 to retirement).

Jordan: 38.3 min for his career / 9 season playing all 82 games / 11 playing 80 or more
LeFraud: 38.0 min for his career / 1 season playing all 82 games / 3 seasons playing 80 or more

LeFraud finishes in Second Place... yet again.

You’re sitting here whining about a week….and Jordan needed LITERAL YEARS off!!!!

WoW!!!

Jordan "chose" to retire because he accomplished more in 11 full seasons than LeFraud has in 21... and again, he was playing another professional sport when he retired after the 93 season, not "taking time off".

Those are just the facts, no matter how much it hurts you LeTots.

[Bush4Ever.]

Wrong again, dummy... on so many levels.

Jordan "chose" to retire after the 93 season (after capping off a 3-Peat in dominating fashion) because, in his own words, there was nothing left for him to prove..

This is a straight, flat lie that I've refuted a million times.

Others have as well, including DEAN SMITH and his fucking father.

lol lol lol

He quit because of mental fatigue and burnout. Point blank, period. This is validated by simple logic and the direct testimony of MULTIPLE people close to Jordan who are Jordan loyalists.

Brilliant logic: Jordan has "nothing left to prove" after 1993, but suddenly has everything prove circa Feb 1995.

Let alone in 2001. lol lol lol

[thedangerouskitchen]

Wrong again, dummy... on so many levels.

Jordan "chose" to retire after the 93 season (after capping off a 3-Peat in dominating fashion) because, in his own words, there was nothing left for him to prove..

This is a straight, flat lie that I've refuted a million times.

Others have as well, including DEAN SMITH and his fucking father.

lol lol lol

He quit because of mental fatigue and burnout. Point blank, period. This is validated by simple logic and the direct testimony of MULTIPLE people close to Jordan who are Jordan loyalists.

Brilliant logic: Jordan has "nothing left to prove" after 1993, but suddenly has everything prove circa Feb 1995.

Let alone in 2001. lol lol lol

So we are to take the words of "someone else" over the man himself... and that explains why Jordan decided to play another (high profile) professional sport, because he was mentally fatigued.



As I said, your "opinion" is about as credible as artman's takes on politics: Zero.

[Bush4Ever.]

So we are to take the words of "someone else" over the man himself... and that explains why Jordan decided to play another (high profile) professional sport, because he was mentally fatigued.



As I said, your "opinion" is about as credible as artman's takes on politics: Zero.

Dean Smith was told BY JORDAN in the summer leading up to the 1993 season that he was going to retire.

You are totally lost.

And yes, he played baseball because it was his dream, but more importantly, because he knew he could play like garbage (which he did-arguably the worst career in professional baseball history) without suffering blows to his real legacy, because no one had any expectation of him being successful.

It was basically a camp setting for him, with no stress and pressure.

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

If TDK had a scintilla of self awareness, at some point he would realize that no matter what the argument is, he takes the negative stance on anything related to LeBron, and no matter what the argument is, he takes the positive stance when it comes to MJ. It never deviates. It extends to other topics. TDK is 2-3 standard deviations away from the norm when it comes to succumbing to cognitive bias.

[Da Stars.]

Dallas Stars as well as the rest of the NHL had a week off as well. Tonight, they play their second B2B game since.

[xer0]

Dallas Stars as well as the rest of the NHL had a week off as well. Tonight, they play their second B2B game since.

You guys have a good squad, smacked my wings around a couple of times this year.

[Da Stars.]

Dallas Stars as well as the rest of the NHL had a week off as well. Tonight, they play their second B2B game since.

You guys have a good squad, smacked my wings around a couple of times this year.

They still lack a player or two, not sure who to replace. But thanks.