If LeBron wins his third FMVP where do you rank him?

[Da Stars.]

No higher than 8th at best. LeBron would be going for title number four if he did not gag during the 2011 finals. He would have had I was carried ring.

[876Stephen]

Does anybody remember when Vern said Allen Iverson wasn't a top one hundred and fifty atg.

lol

To me, AI is notoriously underrated. Some people don't even think he's a top 50 all time player which is a complete joke to me.

[DorianRo]

Playing in an all star in a shit conference??? Top 15-20 all time. Hes gonna be 5 ships and 5 FMVP if he wants top 10 status due to the circumstances. Hes not the most stacked in NBA history relative to the competition, and he can't close out games under pressure.. Someone else has to do that.


Its not fair to compare him to other elites who may have been on stacked teams (Like Bird and Magic) but they played OTHER stacked teams. LeBitch didn't do this

Please name twenty players better than LeBron James as of 6/1/2014.

Its not about being "better" its "greater" and taking into account values of championships and FMVPs.

For instance,

Does Lebron's 2 ships and 2 FMVP carry as much weight as Hakeems? HELL NO. Hakeem played with far less talent and tomato cans and washed up players to get his 2 FMVP and ships

Would Lebron's 3 FMVPs compare to Shaq's 3? Hell No.. Shaq played in TEN TIMES superior conference to James with 10 times the competition

Hell the cHeat are lucky to play a 50 win team en route to the finals. Thats how PATHETIC and WEAK the cHeats draws are. I think they have played 1-2 50 win teams since 2011 en route to the finals?

[Sudanese Sensation]

Does anybody remember when Vern said Allen Iverson wasn't a top one hundred and fifty atg.

lol

To me, AI is notoriously underrated. Some people don't even think he's a top 50 all time player which is a complete joke to me.

He's Top Fifty....Again he gets points for cultural impact.

[Jims_Doors]

Magic was arguably the better Laker and greatest of all Lakers but Kareem had the better overall career.

Magic's career was cut short despite his return a couple of years later.

He was a defensive liability. That's why I think he's overrated.

[Jims_Doors]

Playing in an all star in a shit conference??? Top 15-20 all time. Hes gonna be 5 ships and 5 FMVP if he wants top 10 status due to the circumstances. Hes not the most stacked in NBA history relative to the competition, and he can't close out games under pressure.. Someone else has to do that.


Its not fair to compare him to other elites who may have been on stacked teams (Like Bird and Magic) but they played OTHER stacked teams. LeBitch didn't do this

Please name twenty players better than LeBron James as of 6/1/2014.

Its not about being "better" its "greater" and taking into account values of championships and FMVPs.

For instance,

Does Lebron's 2 ships and 2 FMVP carry as much weight as Hakeems? HELL NO. Hakeem played with far less talent and tomato cans and washed up players to get his 2 FMVP and ships

Would Lebron's 3 FMVPs compare to Shaq's 3? Hell No.. Shaq played in TEN TIMES superior conference to James with 10 times the competition

Hell the cHeat are lucky to play a 50 win team en route to the finals. Thats how PATHETIC and WEAK the cHeats draws are. I think they have played 1-2 50 win teams since 2011 en route to the finals?

So are we to take away most of the 80's Lakers titles since their competition to the Finals were pathetic?

[876Stephen]

Does anybody remember when Vern said Allen Iverson wasn't a top one hundred and fifty atg.

lol

To me, AI is notoriously underrated. Some people don't even think he's a top 50 all time player which is a complete joke to me.

He's Top Fifty....Again he gets points for cultural impact.

It's not just the cultural impact. He's underrated as basketball player and how fearless he was. He single handedly carried one of the worst teams to ever make the finals and even won a game against the three-peat lakers.

[CleveTown™]

I rank him as a colluder.

[DorianRo]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOULD win easily and win many.

[l3bron]

Top 5 easy.

[ripper76]

I'm going to go with GOAT.

[Jims_Doors]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

You and Clevetown need to look up the word collusion. You're making yourself's look dumb by using it. You're welcome

Oh and speaking of quitting. Why did Jordan quit with a chance to 4peat?

[Sudanese Sensation]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

[Da Stars.]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

Now then. MJ had won 3 rings before playing along side Pip and Rodman.

[DorianRo]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

Why would Lebron need to collude (If hes supposedly the best player in the league) with enough help in cleveland to have the best regular season records for TWO YEARS and playing dumpy shit talentless conference?


If he would have stayed in Cleveland, his legacy might have been looked back with higher regard. But TRUE historians of the game who understand ball will never forget the Pussy "LeDecision"

[Jims_Doors]

DoRo can't answer a few simple questions?

[DorianRo]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

Now then. MJ had won 3 rings before playing along side Pip and Rodman.

And the dumbasses don't realize Rodman was already past prime by that point who you couldn't even get 5 ppg out of.

You can get 20-30 out of both Bosh and Wade. And another 15-20 out of Allen.

Fucking Bandwagon MORONS!!

[Jims_Doors]

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

Now then. MJ had won 3 rings before playing along side Pip and Rodman.

And the dumbasses don't realize Rodman was already past prime by that point who you couldn't even get 5 ppg out of.

You can get 20-30 out of both Bosh and Wade. And another 15-20 out of Allen.

Fucking Bandwagon MORONS!!

You call yourself a historian yet you believe that Rodman was brought to Chicago for his scoring???

[vcsgrizzfan]

Since Lebron took the LeEasyWayOut, quitting on his team, despite two top seed billings, and willingly colluding with other HOFers to win anything in a WEAK conference like the east where you are lucky if you can find a 50 win team, Lebron is going to have to win more championships just took make up for the fact he has it SOO EASY compared to other elites had it.

Its only fair


Its like Jordan colluding with Magic and Bird in a summer league in the YMCA. They SHOUDL win easily and win many.

Why would Jordan need to collude with Bird when he played next to a NBA Top Fifty player and two other Hall of Fame players and why would Bird need to collude with Jordan when he played with two NBA Top Fifty players and five Hall of Fame players?

Why would Lebron need to collude (If hes supposedly the best player in the league) with enough help in cleveland to have the best regular season records for TWO YEARS and playing dumpy shit talentless conference?


If he would have stayed in Cleveland, his legacy might have been looked back with higher regard. But TRUE historians of the game who understand ball will never forget the Pussy "LeDecision"

Yeah. Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, JJ Hickson and Varajeo should have been enough for any good player to win multiple titles.

Maybe that's why they were 1-13 without LeBron from 2008 to 2010.

[Jims_Doors]

DoRo can't answer a few simple questions?

"chirp...chirp...chirp"

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