2015 Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time #29

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I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton
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wailuaFC wrote:I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton
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wailuaFC wrote:I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton
Parish should be above Walton
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wailuaFC wrote:I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton

Paul is in already. :D
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Yeah CP seems to have this one, to me he did move up the list a little bit after beating the Spurs last year.
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Robceltsfan wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton

Paul is in already. :D
Ah, I didn't count the votes (or even check) for this round, I'm just enjoying the reading the arguments
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wailuaFC wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:I'm going to laugh when parish gets picked above Paul, Howard, and Walton

Paul is in already. :D
Ah, I didn't count the votes (or even check) for this round, I'm just enjoying the reading the arguments

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If you weigh peak super highly, Walton should be in already.

If not, I actually don't think Parish > Walton is absurd at all.
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Bush4Ever wrote:If you weigh peak super highly, Walton should be in already.

If not, I actually don't think Parish > Walton is absurd at all.
If we weight peak so highly wouldn't our list change quite a bit?
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King Deez wrote:
If we weight peak so highly wouldn't our list change quite a bit?
Yes.

I don't weigh absolute peak super-highly. But some seem to.
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Bush4Ever wrote:
King Deez wrote:
If we weight peak so highly wouldn't our list change quite a bit?
Yes.

I don't weigh absolute peak super-highly. But some seem to.
I can see where your peak years help but if the majority of your career is so so i feel that hurts your argument more than anything. If Jordan won 6 titles and was average at best for 7-8 years I'd drop him down that list a ways.
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Odogg wrote:
y2ktors wrote:Voting for this round closes at 11 am CST. Eligible candidates are:

Paul Pierce
Dominique Wilkins
Robert Parish


Who else did I miss?
Gasol, who should clearly be on there if Parish is, if not sooner.
Gasol is a very good player but he's not quite there yet. Parish was a really good defensive player, great rebounder and highly efficient scorer.
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King Deez wrote:
Bush4Ever wrote:
King Deez wrote:
If we weight peak so highly wouldn't our list change quite a bit?
Yes.

I don't weigh absolute peak super-highly. But some seem to.
I can see where your peak years help but if the majority of your career is so so i feel that hurts your argument more than anything. If Jordan won 6 titles and was average at best for 7-8 years I'd drop him down that list a ways.

As he should. Because you'd be comparing Jordan vs. the very best all time.

At this point, we're about to start comparing Walton vs. the very best 3rd fiddles of all time. Longevity and sustained goodness might win out and I have no problem with it... but it's definitely worth at least some discussion at this point if you're like most and believe Walton was truly THE dominating force in a league and a championship team.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
wailuaFC wrote:
Robceltsfan wrote:

Paul is in already. :D
Ah, I didn't count the votes (or even check) for this round, I'm just enjoying the reading the arguments

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I knew Abe had a crush/love affair with Isiah Thomas and Russell Westbrook. Didn't know it extended to Bill Walton too.

Not my style, but do what makes you happy man.
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y2ktors wrote:
Odogg wrote:
y2ktors wrote:Voting for this round closes at 11 am CST. Eligible candidates are:

Paul Pierce
Dominique Wilkins
Robert Parish


Who else did I miss?
Gasol, who should clearly be on there if Parish is, if not sooner.
Gasol is a very good player but he's not quite there yet. Parish was a really good defensive player, great rebounder and highly efficient scorer.
Yet Parish made zero all defensive teams and averaged less rebounds per game than Gasol.
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Meanwhile, Gasol was the clear #2 guy on two title teams (#1 acc to some posters), not sure Parish was ever the #2 guy on the Celtics title teams, have to check on 81. Gasol's stats in both regular season and playoffs are clearly superior as well. And prime Gasol was no slouch on defense.
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Bush4Ever wrote:I knew Abe had a crush/love affair with Isiah Thomas and Russell Westbrook. Didn't know it extended to Bill Walton too.

Not my style, but do what makes you happy man.

Indeed. Imagine how much I'd love the guy if I ever actually voted for him...
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Indeed. Imagine how much I'd love the guy if I ever actually voted for him...
You don't need to justify it. Like I said, it's cool.
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Bush4Ever wrote:If you weigh peak super highly, Walton should be in already.

If not, I actually don't think Parish > Walton is absurd at all.
I don't subscribe to the thinking that playing longer makes you a better basketball player. Eye tests and advanced stats confirm that Walton was superior to parish in just about every single way, and that's including all of his injured broken down years. Walton at his peak was a top 5 player and that's doing a bit of disservve almost, parish never came anywhere near that kind of impact.
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