Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
It's great to know TS% is the now the most important stat in basketball discussions.
I'll need to remember that.
I'll need to remember that.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Oh look... a Kobe Slopper bringing up FG%/TS% after he spent the last 20 years arguing that the stats are completely useless.Madnessssss wrote:You're an idiot. Currys fg% includes shooting 12 threes game. His ts% is 70%. MJs peaked at a measly 61%. Curry is also playing 6 fewer minutes per game. He's scoring much more per minute and much more per shot.thedangerouskitchen wrote:You're trolling is atrocious...Madnessssss wrote: he actually compared Currys current play through 20 games to Kobes best 13 game stretch.......KUB did get btfo on this one.
Im sure if you compare to any MJ stretch you would get btfo too. MJ simply wasnt this good at basketball.
Curry is averaging 32/5/6/52% over the last 20 *games*
Jordan averaged 33/7/6/53% over a six (6) year span
Consider yourself raped to death.
Priceless...!!!
And BTW... only a blithering fool would penalize a player (MJ) for taking high-percentage shots.
33/7/6/53% for 6 years is VASTLY SUPERIOR to 32/5/6/52% over 20 "games"
Now go fetch my slippers fool.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Yes, especially when discussing Kobe.AbeVigodaLive wrote:It's great to know TS% is the now the most important stat in basketball discussions.
I'll need to remember that.
Madness owned like a bitch.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
TS% ?
Is that the percentage probability that a player will likely sleep with a transvestite?
Is that the percentage probability that a player will likely sleep with a transvestite?
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Wrong... 33 does not = 32, unless you're an idiot.Madnessssss wrote:Same pointsthedangerouskitchen wrote:Oh look... a Kobe Slopper bringing up FG%/TS% after he spend the last 20 years arguing that the stats are completely useless.Madnessssss wrote: You're an idiot. Currys fg% includes shooting 12 threes game. His ts% is 70%. MJs peaked at a measly 61%. Curry is also playing 6 fewer minutes per game. He's scoring much more per minute and much more per shot.
Consider yourself raped to death.
Priceless...!!!
And BTW... only a blithering fool would penalize a player (MJ) for taking high-percentage shots.
33/7/6/53% for 6 years is VASTLY SUPERIOR to 32/5/6/52% over 20 "games"
Now go fetch my slippers fool.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Why are you deflecting?Madnessssss wrote:How many more shots did he take per game to get that extra point? Let's hear it. This should be good.....thedangerouskitchen wrote:Wrong... 33 does not = 32, unless you're an idiot.Madnessssss wrote: Same points
33 is better than 32
Period.
Jordan: 23.5-FGA / 53%
Curry: 20.2-FGA / 52%
MJ took more shots AND shot at a better overall clip.
Madness chewed up and spit out...
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Plus TDK has told us Pippen was better than LeBron in his prime. So you had a guy better than LeBron taking the pressure off of Jordan every night. Attracting a lot of the defenders attention were surely focused on someone better than LeBron.Madnessssss wrote:So 3 extra shots and 6 extra minutes for one extra point and one extra rebound
Crazy.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Over 6 *years* at a better FG% (which is now your favorite stat - ) vs. 20 *games*Madnessssss wrote:So 3 extra shots and 6 extra minutes for one extra point and one extra rebound
Madness slapped around like a $20 hooker.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Never said that, fool... I said LeBeta is nothing more than a bigger version of Pippen playing in a weaker era. I said prime Pippen was a better player than Kobe... and he was.AlaskaHawks wrote:Plus TDK has told us Pippen was better than LeBron in his prime. So you had a guy better than LeBron taking the pressure off of Jordan every night. Attracting a lot of the defenders attention were surely focused on someone better than LeBron.Madnessssss wrote:So 3 extra shots and 6 extra minutes for one extra point and one extra rebound
Crazy.
You have no point.
6 years vs. 20 games
ROFL at the desperation of the Kobe Kids.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
So you're saying Jordan never had a 20 *game* span as good as Curry has had?Madnessssss wrote:The argument is THIS year Curry is better than MJ ever was.thedangerouskitchen wrote:Over 6 *years* at a better FG% (which is now your favorite stats - ) vs. 20 *games*Madnessssss wrote:So 3 extra shots and 6 extra minutes for one extra point and one extra rebound
Madness slapped around like a $20 hooker.
Prove it.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
thedangerouskitchen wrote:So you're saying Jordan never had a 20 *game* span as good as Curry has had?Madnessssss wrote:The argument is THIS year Curry is better than MJ ever was.thedangerouskitchen wrote:
Over 6 *years* at a better FG% (which is now your favorite stats - ) vs. 20 *games*
Madness slapped around like a $20 hooker.
Prove it.
Come on now. Be fair. What exactly are you asking for here?
You want him to post every one of Jordan's 1000+ games? 20 game sample sizes at a time?
Madnesss made a claim. It MIGHT not be accurate. But it's up to somebody else to prove him wrong.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Madnessssss wrote:Assuming currys numbers hold up for the seasonthedangerouskitchen wrote:So you're saying Jordan never had a 20 game span as good as Curry has had?Madnessssss wrote: The argument is THIS year Curry is better than MJ ever was.
Prove it.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Interesting you made a thread saying you agreed with Pippen saying he was Lebron before LeBron.thedangerouskitchen wrote:Never said that, fool... I said LeBeta is nothing more than a bigger version of Pippen playing in a weaker era. I said prime Pippen was a better player than Kobe... and he was.AlaskaHawks wrote:Plus TDK has told us Pippen was better than LeBron in his prime. So you had a guy better than LeBron taking the pressure off of Jordan every night. Attracting a lot of the defenders attention were surely focused on someone better than LeBron.Madnessssss wrote:So 3 extra shots and 6 extra minutes for one extra point and one extra rebound
Crazy.
You have no point.
6 years vs. 20 games
ROFL at the desperation of the Kobe Kids.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Really... so Madness doesn't have to back up his "claim" with facts/substance when called-out?AbeVigodaLive wrote:thedangerouskitchen wrote:So you're saying Jordan never had a 20 *game* span as good as Curry has had?Madnessssss wrote: The argument is THIS year Curry is better than MJ ever was.
Prove it.
Come on now. Be fair. What exactly are you asking for here?
You want him to post every one of Jordan's 1000+ games? 20 game sample sizes at a time?
Madnesss made a claim. It MIGHT not be accurate. But it's up to somebody else to prove him wrong.
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"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
I hope so... but I can't read minds, only words.Madnessssss wrote:He's taking your side via sarcasm, moron.thedangerouskitchen wrote:Really... so it's not up to Madness to back up his "claim" with facts/substance?AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Come on now. Be fair. What exactly are you asking for here?
You want him to post every one of Jordan's 1000+ games? 20 game sample sizes at a time?
Madnesss made a claim. It MIGHT not be accurate. But it's up to somebody else to prove him wrong.
Dope.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Madnessssss wrote:Even MJs best stretch probably included more shot attempts per point and more minutes.thedangerouskitchen wrote:Really... so it's not up to Madness to back up his "claim" with facts/substance?AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Come on now. Be fair. What exactly are you asking for here?
You want him to post every one of Jordan's 1000+ games? 20 game sample sizes at a time?
Madnesss made a claim. It MIGHT not be accurate. But it's up to somebody else to prove him wrong.
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
If curry doesn't win 6 rings this conversation is pointless. Completely utterly pointless. Different eras different rules different defenses. Jordan was the ultimate scoring warrior who battled hard fouls hand checking ... Etc. from an unbiased standpoint If Curry had to battle hand checking given his size and his game he probably wouldn't have been a relevant player and would have been reduced to Steve Kerr.
However, that doesn't take away from his incredible ability to hit deep shots but let's be honest he can hit half court shots all day and if he doesn't win 6-7 rings then it's all for nothing except the record books.
Lebrun had already put up way better more efficient stats than Jordan and has been to almost as many finals yet once the dust settles he is regarded as a 2 time champion and a perennial failure in 3 finals. IMO he is no longer hyped to be better than Jordan like he once was when everyone was on his nuts after 2 rings. That's only 2 rings. Jordan won "2rings" times 3.
Curry is on a roll but I ain't about to say he's better than Jordan ... He is scoring more efficiently and is a superb shooter because he has exploited the new rule changes better than anyone else but let's keep it real put Curry in the 80/90s and he's only slightly better than his Dad in his day when he played . And that's it.
However, that doesn't take away from his incredible ability to hit deep shots but let's be honest he can hit half court shots all day and if he doesn't win 6-7 rings then it's all for nothing except the record books.
Lebrun had already put up way better more efficient stats than Jordan and has been to almost as many finals yet once the dust settles he is regarded as a 2 time champion and a perennial failure in 3 finals. IMO he is no longer hyped to be better than Jordan like he once was when everyone was on his nuts after 2 rings. That's only 2 rings. Jordan won "2rings" times 3.
Curry is on a roll but I ain't about to say he's better than Jordan ... He is scoring more efficiently and is a superb shooter because he has exploited the new rule changes better than anyone else but let's keep it real put Curry in the 80/90s and he's only slightly better than his Dad in his day when he played . And that's it.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
TDK avoiding the thread I posted of him saying Pippen is as good as LeBron.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
Great point, actually... and let's not forget Jordan was breaking Finals records for 3-point shooting when that facet of the game was in its infancy. So it stands to reason that if he spent endless hours a day practicing that shot (as do the players of this era) MJ would be shooting 3-pointers at a ridiculous clip.l3 o $$ wrote:If curry doesn't win 6 rings this conversation is pointless. Completely utterly pointless. Different eras different rules different defenses. Jordan was the ultimate scoring warrior who battled hard fouls hand checking ... Etc. from an unbiased standpoint If Curry had to battle hand checking given his size and his game he probably wouldn't have been a relevant player and would have been reduced to Steve Kerr.
However, that doesn't take away from his incredible ability to hit deep shots but let's be honest he can hit half court shots all day and if he doesn't win 6-7 rings then it's all for nothing except the record books.
Lebrun had already put up way better more efficient stats than Jordan and has been to almost as many finals yet once the dust settles he is regarded as a 2 time champion and a perennial failure in 3 finals. IMO he is no longer hyped to be better than Jordan like he once was when everyone was on his nuts after 2 rings. That's only 2 rings. Jordan won "2rings" times 3.
Curry is on a roll but I ain't about to say he's better than Jordan ... He is scoring more efficiently and is a superb shooter because he has exploited the new rule changes better than anyone else but let's keep it real put Curry in the 80/90s and he's as good as his Dad. And that's it.
On the flipside, put Steph in an era where perimeter defenders were allowed to grab, elbow, push and shove their man out of position and there's no way he's putting up the numbers he's putting up today.
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Re: Kobe at his peak was never as good as Curry is now
AlaskaHawks wrote:TDK avoiding the thread I posted of him saying Pippen is as good as LeBron.
Alaska must be hitting the crack pipe early today...
"Today's NBA is soft, the Defense is weak, and the rules 'really' favor the Offense."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."
"Lebron doesn’t guard for a full game and our game plan was to get him to play defense and he left me open all game."