2015 Anger General Greatest post-merger Players of All Time #29

[Deez]

Decided I'm going with Zo. Paul has unfinished business to take care of.

True, Zo has accomplished way more in his 15 year career.

[Y2K]

Decided I'm going with Zo. Paul has unfinished business to take care of.

True, Zo has accomplished way more in his 15 year career.

Like what?

[Deez]

Decided I'm going with Zo. Paul has unfinished business to take care of.

True, Zo has accomplished way more in his 15 year career.

Like what?

I was being very sarcastic.

[Y2K]

True, Zo has accomplished way more in his 15 year career.

Like what?

I was being very sarcastic.

Totally missed the sarcasm. I blame it on hunger.

[Deez]

Like what?

I was being very sarcastic.

Totally missed the sarcasm. I blame it on hunger. [/quote

[AbeVigodaLive]

So we're voting Alonzo Mourning in before Dwight Howard now?

Really? Nostalgia is a powerful drug, huh...

[elmerjfudd]

Chris Paul

[Y2K]

So we're voting Alonzo Mourning in before Dwight Howard now?

Really? Nostalgia is a powerful drug, huh...

The case for Mourning is there but it is one that i definitely have to look deeper into.

[Odogg]

Decided I'm going with Zo. Paul has unfinished business to take care of.

True, Zo has accomplished way more in his 15 year career.

How about two DPOYs? Also making it past the 2nd round in his prime, something which is pretty difficult apparently for others.

[Master Spade]

At this point in the voting, there needs to be more than 4 candidates to choose from.

[Odogg]

Yeah the choices aren't that impressive this round.

[americaninfidel]

I agree with Spade and Odogg; none of the options is very compelling, and four is likely too few at this point. I'm inclined to throw a vote to Iverson, but I don't feel strongly about it.

[elmouse03]

I flipped a coin between Iverson and Zo and it landed on its side so still

[Robceltsfan]

I flipped a coin between Iverson and Zo and it landed on its side so still

That meant CP3.

[elmouse03]

I flipped a coin between Iverson and Zo and it landed on its side so still

That meant CP3.

Soooooooooooooo go with Dwight?

[Robceltsfan]

I flipped a coin between Iverson and Zo and it landed on its side so still

That meant CP3.

Soooooooooooooo go with Dwight?

I'd take Dwight over Zo and CP3 over Iverson....so sure.

[Y2K]

I agree with Spade and Odogg; none of the options is very compelling, and four is likely too few at this point. I'm inclined to throw a vote to Iverson, but I don't feel strongly about it.

Infidel, the thing about adding more options is that they won't necessarily be better options than what we have on the board.

[elmouse03]

I agree with Spade and Odogg; none of the options is very compelling, and four is likely too few at this point. I'm inclined to throw a vote to Iverson, but I don't feel strongly about it.

Infidel, the thing about adding more options is that they won't necessarily be better options than what we have on the board.

Lets add Bill Walton

[dwcmwa]

Iverson

[Y2K]

I don't know why we are having such a disconnect here.

Ignoring Walton's peak performance is just as bad as ignoring his many many absences from the court. Why can't we discuss both? After all, we'd be discussing Bill Walton's place on this list.

Why do you think we need a clean, neat itemized spreadsheet for every single player?

You can discuss both. You have to discuss both if you want to rank on a criterion of "greatness", and you think both peak and total career performance are meaningful components of "greatness".

You don't need a spreadsheet, but you need to have the same weighting system because you are evaluating across a single, common criterion.

The only way Walton can be voted in now is if you give overwhelming amounts of weight to peak peformance, since on a career front, he isn't even in the ballpark.

If you decide that, there is nothing wrong with that in and of itself. But if you take that approach, you have to apply it consistently across the board *or* make a new list that is evaluating a different criterion (like peak performance instead of greatness).

And this is what makes it so difficult to place him.... 1977-78, 1986 are the 3 best individual seasons for him. His skills and impact aren't being disputed. It's what's in bold that has to be factored in one way or the other.