No bias involved...is this a good trade?

Titan18 · Post by **Titan18** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:48 pm

Tobias Harris
Victor Oladipo
Domantas Sabonis (highly touted lottery pick)
Ersan Ilyasova

For

1 year of Serge Ibaka

zombiesonics · Post by **zombiesonics** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:57 pm

Good God.

CleveTown™ · Post by **CleveTown™** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:57 pm

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LNS · Post by **LNS** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:59 pm

Who did the Tragic originally get for Tobias?

AbeVigodaLive · Post by **AbeVigodaLive** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:59 pm

To be fair, you're not being honest.
The Magic also got 25 games from Brandon Jennings:

7.0 ppg / 4.0 ast / 36.6% fg

zombiesonics · Post by **zombiesonics** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:04 am

LakersNeedShaq wrote:Who did the Tragic originally get for Tobias?

Brandon Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova.

Stan did his old team with no vaseline.

LNS · Post by **LNS** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:06 am

zombiesonics wrote:
LakersNeedShaq wrote:Who did the Tragic originally get for Tobias?
Brandon Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova.

Stan did his old team with no vaseline.

Jesus.... and Abe mentioned in a different thread that Fournier will probably command a max, but won't Ibaka also command a max? So the Magic might potentially max out Fournier and Ibaka??

AbeVigodaLive · Post by **AbeVigodaLive** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:11 am

LakersNeedShaq wrote:
zombiesonics wrote:
LakersNeedShaq wrote:Who did the Tragic originally get for Tobias?
Brandon Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova.

Stan did his old team with no vaseline.

Jesus.... and Abe mentioned in a different thread that Fournier will probably command a max, but won't Ibaka also command a max? So the Magic might potentially max out Fournier and Ibaka??

I think Ibaka qualifies for a max that's closer to $30M...

Scout · Post by **Scout** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:18 am

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
LakersNeedShaq wrote:
zombiesonics wrote:
Brandon Jennings and Ersan Ilyasova.

Stan did his old team with no vaseline.

Jesus.... and Abe mentioned in a different thread that Fournier will probably command a max, but won't Ibaka also command a max? So the Magic might potentially max out Fournier and Ibaka??

I think Ibaka qualifies for a max that's closer to $30M...

With the 107 mil cap next year, his max will start at approximately 32.1 million (that's just the starting salary).

Titan18 · Post by **Titan18** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:31 am

To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.

elmouse03 · Post by **elmouse03** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:32 am

It is if you're artman. Any trade the magic make is a good one.

Scout · Post by **Scout** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:38 am

Titan18 wrote:To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.

Fournier is gonna get a 20+ mil offer.

LNS · Post by **LNS** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:40 am

Scout wrote:
Titan18 wrote:To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.
Fournier is gonna get a 20+ mil offer.

Who are you?

Scout · Post by **Scout** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:40 am

LakersNeedShaq wrote:
Scout wrote:
Titan18 wrote:To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.
Fournier is gonna get a 20+ mil offer.

Who are you?

Denali's alt

AbeVigodaLive · Post by **AbeVigodaLive** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:41 am

Scout wrote:
Titan18 wrote:To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.
Fournier is gonna get a 20+ mil offer.

Yep. Is Bradley Beal really that much more of a sure thing?

elartman1973 · Post by **elartman1973** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:47 am

Lol at the stupidity in this thread and the complete ignorance of cap space aquired and internal moves allowed as a result of the trades and the sudden vast overrating of players the majority of the board has called scrubs for the past two years...until they got traded and all of a sudden they are all future all stars.
Do your research..get your story right and dont make dumb uneducated threads like this one that are in complete obsession of me.

LNS · Post by **LNS** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:48 am

elartman1973 wrote:Lol at the stupidity in this thread and the complete ignorance of cap space aquired and internal moves allowed as a result of the trades and the sudden vast overrating of players the majority of the board has called scrubs for the past two years...until they got traded and all of a sudden they are all future all stars.
Do your research..get your story right and dont make dumb uneducated threads like this one that are in complete obsession of me.

Explain the cap space situation in detail, please.

elartman1973 · Post by **elartman1973** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:50 am

LakersNeedShaq wrote:
elartman1973 wrote:Lol at the stupidity in this thread and the complete ignorance of cap space aquired and internal moves allowed as a result of the trades and the sudden vast overrating of players the majority of the board has called scrubs for the past two years...until they got traded and all of a sudden they are all future all stars.
Do your research..get your story right and dont make dumb uneducated threads like this one that are in complete obsession of me.

Explain the cap space situation in detail, please.

We made trades that gave us a lot more of it than we had...pretty simple

Scout · Post by **Scout** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:50 am

AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Scout wrote:
Titan18 wrote:To be honest, and I don't think Abe gets enough credit for bringing this up but Founier being a restricted free agent is huge. A potential 20ppg wing who is only 23 is going to get some offers. Either magic will have to play ball and match a 15+ million a year offer or the magic are in serous danger of losing Harris, Founier, and Oladipo in just one year times while only gaining a washed up 35 year old Ibaka.
Fournier is gonna get a 20+ mil offer.

Yep. Is Bradley Beal really that much more of a sure thing?

I'd say Fournier is higher floor, lower ceiling.

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