Cops shoot & kill SA guy w/ his hands up

[Smelters]

Usually "let's not rush to judgment" and "let's wait until we have all of the information" is really just cop code for "give us some time to come up with an adequate spin on this story."

The guy had a knife. He was possibly in possession of this knife when the shooting took place, or possibly not. He was shirtless. The police officers could see his if there was anything in his waistband. If there was anything there it would have been reported by now.

Could this guy have been a scumbag? Possibly. But the video shows that this guy did not pose an imminent threat to the lives of these officers.

I agree that it looks that way. And I fear the police state. But I would still prefer to adhere to "innocent until proven guilty" for as much longer as we can hold onto it.

The problem is that excess use of force and improper use of force has been a big issue in the US for a very long time now. The reason it has taken this long for society as a whole to take notice is that never in our history have cameras been this prevalent. There needs to be some kind of serious reform here or we may face a serious societal upheaval in the not-so-distant future.

Wow someone is using common sense which nowadays is uncommon.

[Smelters]

The problem is that excess use of force and improper use of force has been a big issue in the US for a very long time now. The reason it has taken this long for society as a whole to take notice is that never in our history have cameras been this prevalent. There needs to be some kind of serious reform here or we may face a serious societal upheaval in the not-so-distant future.

Wow someone is using common sense which nowadays is uncommon.

Imo there's not enough force. Cops have been soft. Blacks need to be taught a lesson that they can't be thuggin like idiots anymore

What do blacks have to do with this story?
Amerikkka let the mafia and kkk do their damage for years.
Lol the whites should have taught blacks a lesson along time ago but they were so scared that they didn't want them to read just so that they can use them for years. Blacks would get killed for reading or knowing how to read for a long time. Blame that on your people for not wanting blacks to learn.

[steveo]

Do people have a phrase for the Mexican equivalent of a Dindu Nuffin?

Mexican't?

[CleveTown™]

did anyone stop to think that this guy deserved it? It's a strong possibility given his contributions to society and racial/genetic make up.

[americaninfidel]

The problem is that excess use of force and improper use of force has been a big issue in the US for a very long time now. The reason it has taken this long for society as a whole to take notice is that never in our history have cameras been this prevalent. There needs to be some kind of serious reform here or we may face a serious societal upheaval in the not-so-distant future.

I don't disagree. As the citizenry become more exposed to the fact that the American ideal of government of/by/for the people is in shambles, we become more likely to rise up. It's why I support groups like the Oathkeepers, though I've yet to join them.

I follow a couple of YouTubers who are kind of obscure, but they do a lot of Human Rights "tests." I don't agree with all of their stuff (some of it is just too extreme), but they have made some interesting vids before. One is HonorYourOath and the other is CopBlock. I hadn't heard of the Oathkeepers until now.

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” That oath, mandated by Article VI of the Constitution itself, is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and Oath Keepers declare that they will not obey unconstitutional orders, such as orders to disarm the American people, to conduct warrantless searches, or to detain Americans as “enemy combatants” in violation of their ancient right to jury trial.

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[Ghostown42]

did anyone stop to think that this guy deserved it? It's a strong possibility given his contributions to society and racial/genetic make up.

Wow. You've completely flip-flopped.

[CleveTown™]

did anyone stop to think that this guy deserved it? It's a strong possibility given his contributions to society and racial/genetic make up.

Wow. You've completely flip-flopped.

I'm just trying to see both sides of the coin.