Jokic takes a GIANT CRAP on the Wagner bros and Germany.

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Jokic takes a GIANT CRAP on the Wagner bros and Germany.

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Jokic did what Jokic does.

I agree with George Karl. It's criminal Denver management and ownership isn't doing more to surround him with decent talent. His peak is being wasted.
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DIdn't he win the championship like a year ago?

They just need to add a rotation player back...But i don't see them beating boston either way tbh if Porzingis stays healthy
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Thedictator wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:10 pm DIdn't he win the championship like a year ago?

They just need to add a rotation player back...But i don't see them beating boston either way tbh if Porzingis stays healthy
Take a lot at the roster that surrounds him. Not a single gut has even made an all star team. Murray has moments, but he's inconsistent as hell, and hasn't been the same since his knee injury. He completely shit the bed for Canada in the Olympics here.

They have let their best role players go in free agency in the last few off seasons.

That roster, ex Jokic, isn't hugely different from the Cavs roster, ex LeBron in 2009. It's better, but relative to the the rest of the league, not much.
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_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:56 am
Thedictator wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:10 pm DIdn't he win the championship like a year ago?

They just need to add a rotation player back...But i don't see them beating boston either way tbh if Porzingis stays healthy
Take a lot at the roster that surrounds him. Not a single gut has even made an all star team. Murray has moments, but he's inconsistent as hell, and hasn't been the same since his knee injury. He completely shit the bed for Canada in the Olympics here.

They have let their best role players go in free agency in the last few off seasons.

That roster, ex Jokic, isn't hugely different from the Cavs roster, ex LeBron in 2009. It's better, but relative to the the rest of the league, not much.
Yea, i forgot Murray got injured. The thing is, i don't think Jokic cares about winning championships. I remember when they won the championship, he said he didn't really care and just wanted to leave or something like that. He called it just his "job" lol

He doesn't strike me as a guy to ring chase...
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Denver was -8.8 points per 100 possession without Jokic in 2024.

The 2009 Cavs without Lebron were -5.9/100 possessions.

By comparison, the 76ers without Joel were -0.8, Mavs without Luka -4.6, and Bucks without Gianns -3.9.
Spoiler:
Celtics were +12.2 without Tatum and +16.1 without Brown
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:48 pm Denver was -8.8 points per 100 possession without Jokic in 2024.

The 2009 Cavs without Lebron were -5.9/100 possessions.

By comparison, the 76ers without Joel were -0.8, Mavs without Luka -4.6, and Bucks without Gianns -3.9.
Spoiler:
Celtics were +12.2 without Tatum and +16.1 without Brown
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That is hilarious lol
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Joker (and his 11 tomato can teammates) came thisclose to beating LeFraud surrounded by the (alleged) "greatest team ever assembled" (lol)... so why would anyone be surprised that he beat Germany?

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Thedictator wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:15 am
_Vcsgrizzfan_ wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:56 am
Thedictator wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:10 pm DIdn't he win the championship like a year ago?

They just need to add a rotation player back...But i don't see them beating boston either way tbh if Porzingis stays healthy
Take a lot at the roster that surrounds him. Not a single gut has even made an all star team. Murray has moments, but he's inconsistent as hell, and hasn't been the same since his knee injury. He completely shit the bed for Canada in the Olympics here.

They have let their best role players go in free agency in the last few off seasons.

That roster, ex Jokic, isn't hugely different from the Cavs roster, ex LeBron in 2009. It's better, but relative to the the rest of the league, not much.
Yea, i forgot Murray got injured. The thing is, i don't think Jokic cares about winning championships. I remember when they won the championship, he said he didn't really care and just wanted to leave or something like that. He called it just his "job" lol

He doesn't strike me as a guy to ring chase...


I think it's mostly an act, I think he cares. He slips up and shows it sometimes like when he hit that buzzer beater against GSW.
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