Is "Trust The Process" over?

[Havlicekstealsit]

No disrespect @Phuture.

Joel Embiid recently turned 30 years old. Since he joined the Sixers in 2016-17:

Five 2nd round exits.
Two 1st round exits.
Three head coaches.
Drafted Fultz #1 with Tatum, Markkanen, Donovan still on the board.
Drafted Mikal Bridges #10 with SGA going right after him.
That Ben Simmons...thing.
Not even including his first two missed seasons, Embiid has missed over 200 games just in the regular season alone.

Looks like they found a gem in Maxey to team up with Embiid, but is it too late?

[Uncontroversial]

yeah and it should be a cautionary lesson about tanking. Teams should just try to win the games that their fans are paying to see. 76ers deserve even worse.

[Alex_Murphy]

They suck

[wailuaFC]

The process worked great, look at how many chances they had to draft great players. Their scouting department is what failed them

[Uncontroversial]

The process worked great, look at how many chances they had to draft great players. Their scouting department is what failed them

drafting is a crapshoot which is why tHe pRoCeSs isnt a worthwhile strategy

[wailuaFC]

The process worked great, look at how many chances they had to draft great players. Their scouting department is what failed them

drafting is a crapshoot which is why tHe pRoCeSs isnt a worthwhile strategy

Getting as many shots at a generational player as possible makes sense. The idealized Simmons and embiid would have been awesome. Tanking for the best chance at embiid or wemby makes a ton more sense than what a team like the bulls have been doing. Either try to build a team to win, or waste a few seasons giving young guys playing time while losing a lot so you might be able to draft a superstar. Is competing for the 9th seed really enticing for the bulls or should they just try to actually reset?

[elmerjfudd]

You're being kind on some of these moves that we made. Like we would not have been so bad off taking mikal bridges over sga but we did take him and then traded him on draft day for a guy that doesnt even play in the g league anymore. Or the Markelle fultz thing would not have been so bad if we didn't trade an additional lottery pick to move up to pick him. The NBA putting the colangelo's in front office was the death of any chance of us having great success. The greatness of Embiid is the only reason why we looked like championship contenders.

[rileymartin]

Through it all , despite the gaffes, had they simply chose Jimmy over Tobias Harris, they probably have a title by now…

[PhutureDynasty]

You're being kind on some of these moves that we made. Like we would not have been so bad off taking mikal bridges over sga but we did take him and then traded him on draft day for a guy that doesnt even play in the g league anymore. Or the Markelle fultz thing would not have been so bad if we didn't trade an additional lottery pick to move up to pick him. The NBA putting the colangelo's in front office was the death of any chance of us having great success. The greatness of Embiid is the only reason why we looked like championship contenders.

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Fudd nailed it.

[PhutureDynasty]

The process worked great, look at how many chances they had to draft great players. Their scouting department is what failed them

I agree with this as well.

[elartman1973]

You're being kind on some of these moves that we made. Like we would not have been so bad off taking mikal bridges over sga but we did take him and then traded him on draft day for a guy that doesnt even play in the g league anymore. Or the Markelle fultz thing would not have been so bad if we didn't trade an additional lottery pick to move up to pick him. The NBA putting the colangelo's in front office was the death of any chance of us having great success. The greatness of Embiid is the only reason why we looked like championship contenders.

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Fudd nailed it.

Choosing Tobias over Jimmy although it's what made Jimmy fired up and no telling if same Jimmy would have showed up in Philly.
Problem with the process is that the sixers went off course and tried to fast forward and took shirtcuts and skip the growth part and went for home run big name signings instead of signing or developing for needs instead.
No reason why harden had to be there.

Hopefully my Magic don't follow suit and make tge sa.e mistakes. But they have a smart logical front office that is doing things the right way. No shortcuts.

[wailuaFC]

You're being kind on some of these moves that we made. Like we would not have been so bad off taking mikal bridges over sga but we did take him and then traded him on draft day for a guy that doesnt even play in the g league anymore. Or the Markelle fultz thing would not have been so bad if we didn't trade an additional lottery pick to move up to pick him. The NBA putting the colangelo's in front office was the death of any chance of us having great success. The greatness of Embiid is the only reason why we looked like championship contenders.

I agree with you on basically everything, but that’s the FO failing not the process. Process > results, the idea was there but the league wasn’t ready for it. Hinkie did amazing work with the accumulation of assets and giving out team friendly deals on fliers. The colangelos ruined it all, removing hinkie was the downfall

[Uncontroversial]

the process doesnt work and failed because -nobody- can accurately predict which draft picks will pan out. Ben Simmons was thought to be a future HOFer by literally everybody. Ricky Rubio, Hasheem Thabeet, Johny Flynn and Tyreke Edwards were drafted over Steph Curry. Jokic was drafted 41st in the second round.

You can criticize a GM's choices with the benefit of hindsight, they all suck at their jobs because it's nearly impossible. Thus, a team should not bet the franchise and sacrifice multiple seasons to accumulate high draft picks.

The process was stupid and didnt work.

[wailuaFC]

the process doesnt work and failed because -nobody- can accurately predict which draft picks will pan out. Ben Simmons was thought to be a future HOFer by literally everybody. Ricky Rubio, Hasheem Thabeet, Johny Flynn and Tyreke Edwards were drafted over Steph Curry. Jokic was drafted 41st in the second round.

You can criticize a GM's choices with the benefit of hindsight, they all suck at their jobs because it's nearly impossible. Thus, a team should not bet the franchise and sacrifice multiple seasons to accumulate high draft picks.

The process was stupid and didnt work.

That kind of proves the process worked. It’s about having more bites at the Apple. Having jrue would have just lead them to a worse first round pick, but trading him allowed a better first plus more opportunities to get a guy who slides like Giannis or jokic. Mediocrity is pointless, going for a championship or getting more shots at guys who could give you a shot at being great makes way more sense