Shaq vs Jokic

[Uncontroversial]

crazy

an unathletic white guy with man boobs is significantly better than Shaq

[Alex_Murphy]

2.1 blocks > 7.6 assists

[Deez]

Prime Shaq would shit on Jokic.

[Sudanese Sensation]

Prime Shaq would shit on Jokic.

But Jokic would get his. Neither can guard the other because they'll both foul out.

[Havlicekstealsit]

Prime Shaq would shit on Jokic.

Shaq admitted guys like Greg Ostertag & Yao Ming gave him problems. Generally 7footers with low centers of gravity it seems, somehwhat immovable objects.

[Shill Jackson]

stats are glaringly missing 3 point %

[Sudanese Sensation]

Prime Shaq would shit on Jokic.

Shaq admitted guys like Greg Ostertag & Yao Ming gave him problems. Generally 7footers with low centers of gravity it seems, somehwhat immovable objects.

Jokic is a big man but he's still giving up 70-100 pounds. I really don't see him guarding Shaq..I also don't see Shaq chasing him around and trying to guard him. They're just such different players even though they play the same position.

[Uncontroversial]

[Uncontroversial]

stats are glaringly missing 3 point %

true, that widens the gap further. Way further.

[thedangerouskitchen]

If we're using the rules/style in place during the 90's-00's Shaq would dismantle Joker... younger Shaq would also take it to Joker even if we're playing today's style, although older/lazy Shaq would struggle.

[manchild98]

stats are glaringly missing 3 point %

true, that widens the gap further. Way further.

One of them also shoots 83% from the free throw line and the other shoots 53%.

[Alex_Murphy]

Nope.

[Uncontroversial]

stats are glaringly missing 3 point %

true, that widens the gap further. Way further.

One of them also shoots over 83% from the free throw line and the other shoots 53%.

it's a blowout, and Shaq is a consensus top 10 player

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

If we're using the rules/style in place during the 90's-00's Shaq would dismantle Joker... younger Shaq would also take it to Joker even if we're playing today's style, although older/lazy Shaq would struggle.

Any rules, Jokic wins. He's way, way more versatile. You and your "glory days" ilk need to smell the coffee.

[thedangerouskitchen]

If we're using the rules/style in place during the 90's-00's Shaq would dismantle Joker... younger Shaq would also take it to Joker even if we're playing today's style, although older/lazy Shaq would struggle.

Any rules, Jokic wins. He's way, way more versatile. You and your "glory days" ilk need to smell the coffee.

You clearly have no clue... Shaq dominated a who's-who list of HOF Centers in the 90's/00's who were VASTLY SUPERIOR Defensive players than Joker. 90's-00's rules/style and Shaq would make Joker look like Greg Ostertag.

You'd better stick to ice fishing, moose hunting, or some other sport they do up there in Beta Cuck Canada because basketball obviously isn't your thing.

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

If we're using the rules/style in place during the 90's-00's Shaq would dismantle Joker... younger Shaq would also take it to Joker even if we're playing today's style, although older/lazy Shaq would struggle.

Any rules, Jokic wins. He's way, way more versatile. You and your "glory days" ilk need to smell the coffee.

You clearly have no clue... Shaq dominated a who's-who list of HOF Centers in the 90's/00's who were VASTLY SUPERIOR Defensive players than Joker. 90's-00's rules/style and Shaq would make Joker look like Greg Ostertag.

You'd better stick to ice fishing, moose hunting, or some other sport they do up there in Beta Cuck Canada because basketball obviously isn't your thing.

I never said Shaq wouldn't get his. But Jokic is getting more between what he gets himself and what he gets for others. 90s rules, today's rules, no rules.

Shaq was basically a one trick pony. It was a helluva trick, but he could only beat you in the post. Jokic can beat you from any point on the floor, including the FT line. You have no strategy of throwing fouls at Jokic like you did with Shaq. He makes his.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Any rules, Jokic wins. He's way, way more versatile. You and your "glory days" ilk need to smell the coffee.

You clearly have no clue... Shaq dominated a who's-who list of HOF Centers in the 90's/00's who were VASTLY SUPERIOR Defensive players than Joker. 90's-00's rules/style and Shaq would make Joker look like Greg Ostertag.

You'd better stick to ice fishing, moose hunting, or some other sport they do up there in Beta Cuck Canada because basketball obviously isn't your thing.

I never said Shaq wouldn't get his. But Jokic is getting more between what he gets himself and what he gets for others. 90s rules, today's rules, no rules.

Shaq was basically a one trick pony. It was a helluva trick, but he could only beat you in the post. Jokic can beat you from any point on the floor, including the FT line. You have no strategy of throwing fouls at Jokic like you did with Shaq. He makes his.

Joker wouldn't be playing "any point on the floor" in the 90's - 00's... he'd be playing 90's-00's style/rules, meaning he'd be playing 10-12 feet-in, with a much more crowded paint and less spacing (making it harder to pass), not to mention the slower Pace (yielding fewer possessions, lower Scoring) and the MUCH more physical Defense (and just more physicality in the game all around) and there's absolutely no chance Joker is averaging 25-30 Point Triple Doubles like he does today.

Not a chance in hell.

Joker today, playing under 90's-00's rules/style = a slightly better version of what Arvydas Sabonis might have looked like had he played his prime years in the NBA: A 20/10/5 guy basically. Still very productive, but not more dominating than Shaq.

Joker's only chance would be Hack-A-Shaq... of course he'd foul out in the first Quarter with that strategy, and that would be that.

Real spit.

[wailuaFC]

Peak vs peak, I’m taking jokic over shaq. He’s stupid good. He’s not the force Shaq was in the post (while still being elite in that regard), but he’s better from everywhere else on the court and his shooting outside of 15ft changes the geometry of the court more than shaq ever did, he’s one of the best passers for any position ever, more able to show on switches, and actually comes into the season in “shape”. We’re so lucky to see all these all time players these past 10 years, LeBron, curry, Durant, Giannis, jokic, etc

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

You clearly have no clue... Shaq dominated a who's-who list of HOF Centers in the 90's/00's who were VASTLY SUPERIOR Defensive players than Joker. 90's-00's rules/style and Shaq would make Joker look like Greg Ostertag.

You'd better stick to ice fishing, moose hunting, or some other sport they do up there in Beta Cuck Canada because basketball obviously isn't your thing.

I never said Shaq wouldn't get his. But Jokic is getting more between what he gets himself and what he gets for others. 90s rules, today's rules, no rules.

Shaq was basically a one trick pony. It was a helluva trick, but he could only beat you in the post. Jokic can beat you from any point on the floor, including the FT line. You have no strategy of throwing fouls at Jokic like you did with Shaq. He makes his.

Joker wouldn't be playing "any point on the floor" in the 90's - 00's... he'd be playing 90's-00's style/rules, meaning he'd be playing 10-12 feet-in, with a much more crowded paint and less spacing (making it harder to pass), not to mention the slower Pace (yielding fewer possessions, lower Scoring) and the MUCH more physical Defense (and just more physicality in the game all around) and there's absolutely no chance Joker is averaging 25-30 Point Triple Doubles like he does today.

Not a chance in hell.

Joker today, playing under 90's-00's rules/style = a slightly better version of what Arvydas Sabonis might have looked like had he played his prime years in the NBA: A 20/10/5 guy basically. Still very productive, but not more dominating than Shaq.

Joker's only chance would be Hack-A-Shaq... of course he'd foul out in the first Quarter with that strategy, and that would be that.

Real spit.

Why the hell wouldn't Joker play from the elbow or the 3 point line you retard? Because you said so? He can play from wherever the hell he wants. He'd be like Sam Perkins in that sense, except stratospherically better. Fuck you're stupid.

[_Vcsgrizzfan_]

Peak vs peak, I’m taking jokic over shaq. He’s stupid good. He’s not the force Shaq was in the post (while still being elite in that regard), but he’s better from everywhere else on the court and his shooting outside of 15ft changes the geometry of the court more than shaq ever did, he’s one of the best passers for any position ever, more able to show on switches, and actually comes into the season in “shape”. We’re so lucky to see all these all time players these past 10 years, LeBron, curry, Durant, Giannis, jokic, etc

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I don't understand what is so difficult about just appreciating the incredible talent we are witnessing right now. Sit back, and just enjoy.