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Rock and Triple H took wrestlemania up a notch. I was worried that Vince not being involved would have caused a decline in wwe’s already faltering product but man did Rock and Triple H pulled it off. A 2 night show of high quality.
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I stopped watching a little before the World Wildlife Fund was threatening to sue McMahon for using the initials WWF. The late 80's early 90's was PEAK wrestling.
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I almost went to night 2 but the prices became ridiculous and I figured I'd just watch it on TV with friends.

I thought it was the best WrestleMania in a while and I enjoyed the Cody story. The Rock was great as a heel and the surprises in the main event were good.

HHH is going to do a better job with this roster than Vince would have and I have a lot of respect for what Vince did for the company too.
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PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:37 am I almost went to night 2 but the prices became ridiculous and I figured I'd just watch it on TV with friends.

I thought it was the best WrestleMania in a while and I enjoyed the Cody story. The Rock was great as a heel and the surprises in the main event were good.

HHH is going to do a better job with this roster than Vince would have and I have a lot of respect for what Vince did for the company too.
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Robceltsfan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:51 am
PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:37 am I almost went to night 2 but the prices became ridiculous and I figured I'd just watch it on TV with friends.

I thought it was the best WrestleMania in a while and I enjoyed the Cody story. The Rock was great as a heel and the surprises in the main event were good.

HHH is going to do a better job with this roster than Vince would have and I have a lot of respect for what Vince did for the company too.
SPOILERS, MOTHERFUCKER!!!
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He's been heel for months you jabroni.
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PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:37 am I almost went to night 2 but the prices became ridiculous and I figured I'd just watch it on TV with friends.

I thought it was the best WrestleMania in a while and I enjoyed the Cody story. The Rock was great as a heel and the surprises in the main event were good.

HHH is going to do a better job with this roster than Vince would have and I have a lot of respect for what Vince did for the company too.
best heel in a while. He really harnessed his acting skills for this job "If you count you're fired. I don't f*** around" was hilarious.
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AtiliusRegulus wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:58 am
PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:37 am I almost went to night 2 but the prices became ridiculous and I figured I'd just watch it on TV with friends.

I thought it was the best WrestleMania in a while and I enjoyed the Cody story. The Rock was great as a heel and the surprises in the main event were good.

HHH is going to do a better job with this roster than Vince would have and I have a lot of respect for what Vince did for the company too.
best heel in a while. He really harnessed his acting skills for this job "If you count you're fired. I don't f*** around" was hilarious.
As great as he was/is as a face, he's an even better heel
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I actually watched both nights. As someone who grew up with the attitude era the rock wrestling peaked my interest and the rumors of Austin making an appearance which sadly didn’t happen but I was still entertained. The product was much much better than the last time I tried watching a show like 10 years ago.

Don’t think I’ll be a regular viewer but may definitely tune in to a few big shows a year now.
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Grown ass men watching wrestling is one of the strangest phenomenon’s I’ve yet to figure out in this universe.

I just don’t get it. I don’t.
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lettherebehouse wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:39 pm Grown ass men watching wrestling is one of the strangest phenomenon’s I’ve yet to figure out in this universe.

I just don’t get it. I don’t.
To truly understand professional wrestling and why people like it, you have to first understand that professional wrestling is a form of performance art.

It’s not a fake sport. It’s not making a mistake by having predetermined outcomes. It’s not failing to be realistic. It’s trying to be exactly what it is, a theatrical exhibition. Yes, it’s often quite silly. At its worst, pro-wrestling is regressive, regrettable nonsense that has no business being on television let alone in an arena full of impressionable young minds. But isn’t that the case with all art?

Some art is stupid, crude, bigoted, or boring. Sometimes really good art is created by really terrible people. Pro-wrestling isn’t somehow “more bad” than film, photography, television, or other performance arts simply because the fights are “fixed”. Yes, wrestling occasionally has people with trashcans on their heads getting beaten by other people wielding large sticks. But, as with any other art, one must know the context of such imagery to discern why it elicits such a strong, audible emotional response from the crowd.

It’s possible to recognize the shortcomings of professional wrestling while still appreciating it as an art. Put another way, it’s possible to know pro-wrestling is staged and still get lost in it. When people think negatively about pro-wrestling, a stance that likely makes it difficult to view pro-wrestling as an art, it’s because the perception of pro-wrestling can be so negative in the culture. People see or hear snippets of wrestling and their opinion of it is formed immediately. Like any art, though, it takes time to appreciate. Pro-wrestling is the skillful manipulation of bodies, before an audience. It’s also the skilled manipulation of language so as to better create character and story. That skilled manipulation elicits increasingly enthusiastic responses from the audience until, finally, wrestler and audience achieve climax. This is the experience of catharsis or, as I call it, The Moment of Pop (“Pop” is a pro-wrestling term for positive collective response from the audience). If professional wrestling wasn’t an art then it couldn’t possibly achieve the Moment of Pop, that moment when the audience suspends their disbelief and reacts on instinct. Film achieves the same result by stacking images and lines of dialogue, each combining to tell the desired story and achieve the desired emotional response. The same is true of music which uses notes. Poetry uses the line. Fiction uses sentences. Wrestling uses moves and promos (a promo is a speech delivered by a wrestler, usually to promote a particular match or show).

No one wastes anyone else’s time asking if they know a movie, a song, a poem, or a novel is fake.

Wrestling’s craft is what makes it a serious art worthy of better analysis and deeper respect. Yes, there was a time when it attempted to pull the wool over the audience’s eyes, but the audience, and the art, has evolved since then.

Or something like that.
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lettherebehouse wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:39 pm Grown ass men watching wrestling is one of the strangest phenomenon’s I’ve yet to figure out in this universe.

I just don’t get it. I don’t.
Wrestling is a dramatic sport, whereby competitors compete holistically against their last performance based on a dramatic story line.
This is how it goes
1. What is the overall arch. The grand story (are the writers getting it right)
2. What are the micro stories (are the writers getting it right)
3. How are performers executing their roles i.e in ring performance, promo. (are they executing the script)

How did the above compare to the last story line and performances.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:19 pm Titan on House ITT

:haha2:
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No ill will towards house, just trying to educate with that quick off the cuff that was definitely not copied and pasted from anywhere else.
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Titan18 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:14 pm
lettherebehouse wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:39 pm Grown ass men watching wrestling is one of the strangest phenomenon’s I’ve yet to figure out in this universe.

I just don’t get it. I don’t.
To truly understand professional wrestling and why people like it, you have to first understand that professional wrestling is a form of performance art.

It’s not a fake sport. It’s not making a mistake by having predetermined outcomes. It’s not failing to be realistic. It’s trying to be exactly what it is, a theatrical exhibition. Yes, it’s often quite silly. At its worst, pro-wrestling is regressive, regrettable nonsense that has no business being on television let alone in an arena full of impressionable young minds. But isn’t that the case with all art?

Some art is stupid, crude, bigoted, or boring. Sometimes really good art is created by really terrible people. Pro-wrestling isn’t somehow “more bad” than film, photography, television, or other performance arts simply because the fights are “fixed”. Yes, wrestling occasionally has people with trashcans on their heads getting beaten by other people wielding large sticks. But, as with any other art, one must know the context of such imagery to discern why it elicits such a strong, audible emotional response from the crowd.

It’s possible to recognize the shortcomings of professional wrestling while still appreciating it as an art. Put another way, it’s possible to know pro-wrestling is staged and still get lost in it. When people think negatively about pro-wrestling, a stance that likely makes it difficult to view pro-wrestling as an art, it’s because the perception of pro-wrestling can be so negative in the culture. People see or hear snippets of wrestling and their opinion of it is formed immediately. Like any art, though, it takes time to appreciate. Pro-wrestling is the skillful manipulation of bodies, before an audience. It’s also the skilled manipulation of language so as to better create character and story. That skilled manipulation elicits increasingly enthusiastic responses from the audience until, finally, wrestler and audience achieve climax. This is the experience of catharsis or, as I call it, The Moment of Pop (“Pop” is a pro-wrestling term for positive collective response from the audience). If professional wrestling wasn’t an art then it couldn’t possibly achieve the Moment of Pop, that moment when the audience suspends their disbelief and reacts on instinct. Film achieves the same result by stacking images and lines of dialogue, each combining to tell the desired story and achieve the desired emotional response. The same is true of music which uses notes. Poetry uses the line. Fiction uses sentences. Wrestling uses moves and promos (a promo is a speech delivered by a wrestler, usually to promote a particular match or show).

No one wastes anyone else’s time asking if they know a movie, a song, a poem, or a novel is fake.

Wrestling’s craft is what makes it a serious art worthy of better analysis and deeper respect. Yes, there was a time when it attempted to pull the wool over the audience’s eyes, but the audience, and the art, has evolved since then.

Or something like that.


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I was always a “wrestling is fake” guy. And all the wrestling fans at my school would always have the same response: “movies are fake and you still watch them”

I guess.

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lettherebehouse wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:39 pm Grown ass men watching wrestling is one of the strangest phenomenon’s I’ve yet to figure out in this universe.

I just don’t get it. I don’t.
I was a fan back in the 80's, but that was when wrestling was on Saturday mornings, but good matches were few and far between. You'd get King Kong Bundy vs Mario Mancini. I remember staying up late and watching and laughing with my dad when they would replace Saturday Night Live with Saturday Night's Main Event...that's when you would get all the top notch matches. My dad and I even went to Wrestlemania 3.

Started watching again in the late 90's when they had the Rock, Triple H, Stone Cold, Mankind, etc. They had a lot of big stars at that time. So started watching Monday Night Raw and those things again for a few years....was even ordering the pay per views.

I haven't watched regularly in about 20 years now. Every time I turn it on now I feel like they just don't have any viable superstars...and you have to have major superstars to try and make wrestling work. If you don't, then you just have 2 guys in a choreographed match and why should I care?
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Last night's WrestleMania main event was a top 3 moment in my life.
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PhutureDynasty wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:50 pm Last night's WrestleMania main event was a top 3 moment in my life.
:stonecold:

Would have been better if that guy showed up.
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Bush4Ever. wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:19 pm Titan on House ITT



lol just saw this

I did get zOWNED

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