Do you feel sorry for Peyton Manning..

[vcsgrizzfan]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

[FPL]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

After tonight, where does he rank among the all-time great QBs?

OT - When did the modern era begin for you in each major sport? 54-55 is probably near unanimous for NBA, but NFL and MLB are tougher (I'm sure NHL is as well, but I don't watch that much hockey). For baseball, there's this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2471349" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

suggesting 1969. NFL I've heard 1950 (unlimited substitution introduced). No clue about hockey.

[vcsgrizzfan]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

After tonight, where does he rank among the all-time great QBs?

OT - When did the modern era begin for you in each major sport? 54-55 is probably near unanimous for NBA, but NFL and MLB are tougher (I'm sure NHL is as well, but I don't watch that much hockey). For baseball, there's this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2471349" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

suggesting 1969. NFL I've heard 1950 (unlimited substitution introduced). No clue about hockey.

Thanks for the questions, but I really don't have an intelligent answer for the second question. Probably late 50s or so for hockey, just prior to the great Canadiens dynasties.

As far as Peyton goes, he's still a top 5 all time QB or so, with apologies to fans of Otto Graham etc that I don't know. I just think that he could easily be consensus number 1 if he had performed as well in the post season as he has in the regular season. It's an impossible question with too many defensible answers, but to me, I still rank Joe Montana number 1. I can't really explain why I feel that way, but I've never felt a sense of confidence in a QB when I was watching a game as much as I did when Joe was playing. He didn't always win, but it almost seemed a surprise when he didn't find a way to win.

[somberbostonian]

He's a Top 5 QB all-time and nothing's going to change that. Although missing an opportunity to be the first QB ever to win SBs with two different teams is not something you forget easily.

[somberbostonian]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

After tonight, where does he rank among the all-time great QBs?

OT - When did the modern era begin for you in each major sport? 54-55 is probably near unanimous for NBA, but NFL and MLB are tougher (I'm sure NHL is as well, but I don't watch that much hockey). For baseball, there's this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2471349" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

suggesting 1969. NFL I've heard 1950 (unlimited substitution introduced). No clue about hockey.

I like to view the post merger years as the modern NFL era, but that's just me.

[CleveTown™]

Yes. His center set the tone for the whole game with the botched snap.

[dwcmwa]

[FPL]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

[Max]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

After tonight, where does he rank among the all-time great QBs?

OT - When did the modern era begin for you in each major sport? 54-55 is probably near unanimous for NBA, but NFL and MLB are tougher (I'm sure NHL is as well, but I don't watch that much hockey). For baseball, there's this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2471349" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

suggesting 1969. NFL I've heard 1950 (unlimited substitution introduced). No clue about hockey.

Thanks for the questions, but I really don't have an intelligent answer for the second question. Probably late 50s or so for hockey, just prior to the great Canadiens dynasties.

As far as Peyton goes, he's still a top 5 all time QB or so, with apologies to fans of Otto Graham etc that I don't know. I just think that he could easily be consensus number 1 if he had performed as well in the post season as he has in the regular season. It's an impossible question with too many defensible answers, but to me, I still rank Joe Montana number 1. I can't really explain why I feel that way, but I've never felt a sense of confidence in a QB when I was watching a game as much as I did when Joe was playing. He didn't always win, but it almost seemed a surprise when he didn't find a way to win.

You feel that way because Joe is the GOAT.

[dwcmwa]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

Elway
Jim McMahon
Otto Graham
Favre
Steve Young
Terry Bradshaw
Marino
Namath

[Repeat3peat]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

Elway
Jim McMahon
Otto Graham
Favre
Steve Young
Terry Bradshaw
Marino
Namath

lol

[LookAway]

No, I hate the entire Manning family. From Archie down to the cat

[CleveTown™]

Why is Gjjs's head on my daughters body?

[ripper76]

Why is Gjjs's head on my daughters body?

That's what happens when you share your pics here.

[elmerjfudd]

No I realize its a team sport.

He lost to a better team, similar to when Elway lost all those super bowls before getting a dominant running game and Kelly losing 3/4 Super Bowls.

He's still the GOAT.

[Y2K]

Never mind that he has a bajillion dollars etc.... but do you feel sorry for him for how he has shit the bed in the playoffs a few too many times.

nope. Not a fan of his but maybe now the Media will quit with this GOAT nonsense. Joe Montana is the greatest QB of all time. Point. Blank. Period.

[Y2K]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

Elway

[Ali Natural]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

Elway

No. Elway has only one more title, less MVPs, never threw for 30 tds in a season and had only one year over 4,000 yards. He was the poster child for SB failure until the bills 4peat of failure and didn't do anything in the 90 until Terrell Davis carried them.

[Robceltsfan]

Other than Montana and Brady, who is definitely ahead of Manning as of today? Who else has a case?

Elway
Jim McMahon
Otto Graham
Favre
Steve Young
Terry Bradshaw
Marino
Namath

Do you watch football?

[denali4eva]