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Great, unbiased take from Pierce. Does anyone know any reason why Pierce would be bitter towards Lebron?

Anyone who ranks Kobe over Lebron can be reliably ignored on everything related to basketball analysis.
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Bush4Ever. wrote:Great, unbiased take from Pierce. Does anyone know any reason why Pierce would be bitter towards Lebron?

Anyone who ranks Kobe over Lebron can be reliably ignored on everything related to basketball analysis.

To be fair, Kobe Bryant beat Poopy Pants Paul, too.
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He sounds like a jilted girlfriend. Not a good look Paul.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
To be fair, Kobe Bryant beat him, too.
Yes, but he beat him with HEART and GUTS and GRIT.

The REFUSE TO LOSE mentality. The OLD SCHOOL mentality.

That's different than basically holding him down, putting him in a headlock, and giving him basketball noogies over and over again with pure physical talent (at least outside 2008).
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if he had put Shaq in the number 5 spot, he would have been credible.
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I'm convinced one of those 11 stabs punctured a part of Paul's brain.
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Pierce knows sucking Chicom dick and The Last Dance has irreparably hurt LeBron's legacy.

3-6 mafia all over social media is desperate to hype LeBron again.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Bush4Ever. wrote:Great, unbiased take from Pierce. Does anyone know any reason why Pierce would be bitter towards Lebron?

Anyone who ranks Kobe over Lebron can be reliably ignored on everything related to basketball analysis.

To be fair, Kobe Bryant beat Poopy Pants Paul, too.
To be fair, Kobe beats LeBron on defense, post play and rings. and he never got a bronze in the Olympics.
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Shill Jackson wrote:
To be fair, Kobe beats LeBron on defense,
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My disdain for LeBron likes it. I won't tell you how high I actually have him ranked.
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He's barely on the outside looking in on the triumvirate of Russell, KAJ, MJ.
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Pierce has always been a bit stupid.
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Bush4Ever. wrote:
Shill Jackson wrote:
To be fair, Kobe beats LeBron on defense,
lol
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C'mon Shill, "defense" in All Star games?
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Shill has proved himself to be useless with regard to basketball discussions.
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Pretty much every single serious qualitative and quantitative analysis has graded Kobe as approximately an average defensive player in his career, with a handful of really good and really bad defensive seasons.

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And there is a lot more data on this topic. But they all point to the same basic idea:

Roughly average on total.

A quick and dirty way to understand how much both Kobe and Lebron's defense contributed to "lift" is to subtract the offensive contribution to "CORP" for both Kobe and Lebron. That ends as such:

Kobe (Career):
Total CORP: 2.06
Offensive contribution: 1.90
So...defensive contribution = 0.16

Lebron (circa 2017 I believe):
Total CORP: 2.79
Offensive contribution: 1.84
So...defensive contribution = 0.95

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