Better career stats? Kareem or Jordan?

[thedangerouskitchen]

Let's compare.

Player A = Kareem (first 15 seasons)
Player B = Jordan ( 15 year career)

Player A: Minutes Played: 39.1
Player B: Minutes Played: 38.3

Player A: FG/FGA: 11.1/19.8 FG%: .560
Player B: FG/FGA: 11.4/22.9 FG%: .497

Player A: FT/FTA: 4.7/6.6 FT%: .717
Player B: FT/FTA: 6.8/8.2 FT%: .835

Player A: Total Rebounds: 12.8
Player B: Total Rebounds: 6.2

Player A: Assists: 4
Player B: Assists: 5.3

Player A: Steals: 1.1
Player B: Steals: 2.3

Player A: Turnovers: 3.1
Player B: Turnovers: 2.7

Player A: Blocks: 3.1
Player B: Blocks: .8

Player A: Points: 26.9
Player B: Points: 30.1

You said better "career" stats yet you left off Jabbar's last 5 years?

Hmmm

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

lol... then why did you say better "career" stats?

[town bidness]

If KAJ was so great why nothing between Oscar and Magic. Gotta hear this one.

So Jordan played his first 6 years getting his shit pushed in in the playoffs and Kareem played 6 years without O and magic without winning a title and this is something you're talking shit about?

that damn gatoraide brainwashing.....

[thedangerouskitchen]

You said better "career" stats yet you left off Jabbar's last 5 years?

Hmmm

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

Then don't say career stats if you had no intention of using their actual careers numbers. Say "who
Had the better 15 year stats"

Regardless those stats still show a 5>4 advantage in favor of Jordan.

Ouuuuuch...!!

[paskeezy3000]

You said better "career" stats yet you left off Jabbar's last 5 years?

Hmmm

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

lol... then why did you say better "career" stats?

Lol everything Kareem did beyond 15 seasons just boosts him further above Jordan in the record books.

[Repeat3peat]

If KAJ was so great why nothing between Oscar and Magic. Gotta hear this one.

So Jordan played his first 6 years getting his shit pushed in in the playoffs and Kareem played 6 years without O and magic without winning a title and this is something you're talking shit about?

Jordan joined a lottery team and a franchise that never won a thing in an Eastern Conference stacked with talent.
Kareem on the other hand played most of his career in a league of midgets...with a good portion of that time coinciding with half the best midgets playing in an entirely different league.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Kareem couldn't do shit without an all time great perimeter player.

Yea. Jordan had Pippen, but he molded Pippen and pippen sure as hell wasn't better than Oscar and Magic. Jordan also never ONCE had a all time GOAT-like BIG down low in any of his runs during an era with some all time great BIGs

While Kareem couldn't win jack without a perimeter GOAT

oscar was in his last year when kareem carried him to a ring.

Oscar averaged 19/6/8/50% that year (18/5/9/49% in the playoffs)

[paskeezy3000]

You said better "career" stats yet you left off Jabbar's last 5 years?

Hmmm

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

Then don't say career stats if you had no intention of using their actual careers numbers. Say "who
Had the better 15 year stats"

Regardless those stats still show a 5>4 advantage in favor of Jordan.

You should read this
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[town bidness]

i will admit there is one thing that jordan was better than kareem at.. well two things:

1. quitting like a bitch.

2. being a bully punching harmless teammates that needed to camp out at the three point line because baldy had no range wide open.

[paskeezy3000]

Kareem couldn't do shit without an all time great perimeter player.

Yea. Jordan had Pippen, but he molded Pippen and pippen sure as hell wasn't better than Oscar and Magic. Jordan also never ONCE had a all time GOAT-like BIG down low in any of his runs during an era with some all time great BIGs

While Kareem couldn't win jack without a perimeter GOAT

oscar was in his last year when kareem carried him to a ring.

Oscar averaged 19/6/8/50% that year (18/5/9/49% in the playoffs)

You should see Kareem's playoff #'s when he played with Oscar.

[town bidness]

Kareem couldn't do shit without an all time great perimeter player.

Yea. Jordan had Pippen, but he molded Pippen and pippen sure as hell wasn't better than Oscar and Magic. Jordan also never ONCE had a all time GOAT-like BIG down low in any of his runs during an era with some all time great BIGs

While Kareem couldn't win jack without a perimeter GOAT

oscar was in his last year when kareem carried him to a ring.

Oscar averaged 19/6/8/50% that year (18/5/9/49% in the playoffs)

AND? those are gasol-esque numbers comparatively.

oscar was in his last year... couldnt do shit before kareem but rack up superfluous stats. hey.. just like jordan without pippen eh? lol.

[thedangerouskitchen]

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

lol... then why did you say better "career" stats?

Lol everything Kareem did beyond 15 seasons just boosts him further above Jordan in the record books.

Jabbar's "career" stats decline rather significantly when you average in his last 5 years... which, of course, is why you conveniently didn't count them.

[Titan18]

15 years and 15 years. Kareem shouldn't be penalized because Jordan was a quitter and/or couldn't play more years.

Then don't say career stats if you had no intention of using their actual careers numbers. Say "who
Had the better 15 year stats"

Regardless those stats still show a 5>4 advantage in favor of Jordan.

You should read this
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So the board chose Kareem mainly prime years vs Jordan's entire career. That's fine with me since I have Kareem as a very close 2 in the goat list and don't have a problem at all people picking him as GOAT. You were still blatantly dishonest saying let's compare their career numbers and not using Kareem's actual career numbers

[town bidness]

i really would love an answer from one of these jordan loving folks around here so i'll repeat, ahem:

"why couldnt jordan get the wiz to the playoffs in the miserable east? we all watched jordan poorly shoot that young team out of a playoff spot two straight years. i mean damn.. that team made literally no improvement over those two years..... 37 - 45 both seasons, lol. absolutely pathetic.

kobe could get kwame brown to the playoffs in the much more competitive west. how odd...."

[wailuaFC]

Kareem couldn't do shit without an all time great perimeter player.

Yea. Jordan had Pippen, but he molded Pippen and pippen sure as hell wasn't better than Oscar and Magic. Jordan also never ONCE had a all time GOAT-like BIG down low in any of his runs during an era with some all time great BIGs

While Kareem couldn't win jack without a perimeter GOAT

Kareem might not have won without a perimeter goat, but neither did Jordan (you guys always say pippen is one of the goat wing players, you have to be held accountable for that)

[Titan18]

i really would love an answer from one of these jordan loving folks around here so i'll repeat, ahem:

"why couldnt jordan get the wiz to the playoffs in the miserable east? we all watched jordan poorly shoot that young team out of a playoff spot two straight years. i mean damn.. that team made literally no improvement over those two years..... 37 - 45 both seasons, lol. absolutely pathetic.

kobe could get kwame brown to the playoffs in the much more competitive west. how odd...."

They were actually .500 and in a playoff spot before Jordan went down for the year at 39. As for when he was 40. He simply wasn't good enough at age 40.

[paskeezy3000]

Then don't say career stats if you had no intention of using their actual careers numbers. Say "who
Had the better 15 year stats"

Regardless those stats still show a 5>4 advantage in favor of Jordan.

You should read this
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=939" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the board chose Kareem mainly prime years vs Jordan's entire career. That's fine with me since I have Kareem as a very close 2 in the goat list and don't have a problem at all people picking him as GOAT. You were still blatantly dishonest saying let's compare their career numbers and not using Kareem's actual career numbers

Haha! His prime years? It was his first 15 years vs mjs first 15 years. Who's fault is is that baldy only played 15 years? His last 2 years his #'s dropped like a lead piece of shit. Imagine if he would have played 5 more like the Captain. He wasn't good enough to play anymore.

[PhutureDynasty]

Great thread.

[Smelters]

scoring titles? mvps? lol.

do you really think only making it to 6 finals in a tepid era devoid of any other great teams besides the bulls is a virtue?

dpoy? so you must think jordan was a better defender than pippen right?

seriously answer those questions before we go any further.

91 Lakers were a great team
92 Blazers were a great so were the 92 Knicks
93 Suns were AWESOME and would shit on any team in the league today
96 Sonics and Pacers would shit on any team in the game today
97-98 Jazz were extremely good

Quit confusing the 90s (the era of all time great Centers and defensive talent perimeter players to this trash one we see now where teams with .400 records can be 3 seeds

Everyone knows the 90s were the weakest decade of the NBA.

Kareem won in HS, College and the Pros.
Greatest basketball player of all time.

Boy MJ must own your dreams. Here you go again. Your schtick is tiring. Your trolling is weak.

[DorianRo]

Kareem couldn't do shit without an all time great perimeter player.

Yea. Jordan had Pippen, but he molded Pippen and pippen sure as hell wasn't better than Oscar and Magic. Jordan also never ONCE had a all time GOAT-like BIG down low in any of his runs during an era with some all time great BIGs

While Kareem couldn't win jack without a perimeter GOAT

Kareem might not have won without a perimeter goat, but neither did Jordan (you guys always say pippen is one of the goat wing players, you have to be held accountable for that)

Pippen is only top 50 all time. But Oscar and Magic are top 10-12. Magic being top 4-5 all time at least.

[Titan18]

You should read this
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So the board chose Kareem mainly prime years vs Jordan's entire career. That's fine with me since I have Kareem as a very close 2 in the goat list and don't have a problem at all people picking him as GOAT. You were still blatantly dishonest saying let's compare their career numbers and not using Kareem's actual career numbers

Haha! His prime years? It was his first 15 years vs mjs first 15 years. Who's fault is is that baldy only played 15 years? His last 2 years his #'s dropped like a lead piece of shit. Imagine if he would have played 5 more like the Captain. He wasn't good enough to play anymore.

I said mainly. Not all. You keep back peddling about why you said let's compare
Career numbers...and then didn't compare career numbers. All I said you should have simply said "let's compare 15 year numbers