Which player is more Valuable to his team...?

[thedangerouskitchen]

This topic came up in a different thread and I'm interested in the board's take. Player A or Player B... who is more Valuable to the success of his team:

Player A averages 20-PPG but he allows his opponent to score more than his seasonal average
Player B averages 15-PPG but he holds his opponent below his seasonal average

Player A averages 10 Assists per game playing on the best shooting team in the league
Player B averages 6 Assists a game playing on the worst shooting team

Player A averages 12 rebounds a game but only 2 on the Offensive end (leading to 3 extra second-chance points for his team)
Player B averages 6 Rebounds but 4 on the Offensive end (leading to 7 extra second-chance points)


Player A clearly has the best stats, but is he more Valuable than Player B...?


(BTW... these are completely arbitrary numbers. There is no agenda here; just wondering if a guy with the best stats should automatically be considered the most Valuable, so Kobe Kids and LeTots should refrain from getting their panties in a wad.)

[ripper76]

[dwcmwa]

Player B

[wailuaFC]

Thats basically why box score watching is frowned upon

[thedangerouskitchen]

Thats basically why box score watching is frowned upon

So I'm guessing your answer is Player B (is more Valuable), yes?

[wailuaFC]

Thats basically why box score watching is frowned upon

So I'm guessing your answer is Player B (is more Valuable), yes?

Hm, I dont recall saying that. What I do recall saying is that looking at box scores is frowned upon

[thedangerouskitchen]

Thats basically why box score watching is frowned upon

So I'm guessing your answer is Player B (is more Valuable), yes?

Hm, I dont recall saying that. What I do recall saying is that looking at box scores is frowned upon

Great... now how about staying on topic and answering the question.

[wailuaFC]

So I'm guessing your answer is Player B (is more Valuable), yes?

Hm, I dont recall saying that. What I do recall saying is that looking at box scores is frowned upon

Great... now how about staying on topic and answering the question.

I dont what you guys dont understand about numbers not being the be all end all.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Hm, I dont recall saying that. What I do recall saying is that looking at box scores is frowned upon

Great... now how about staying on topic and answering the question.

I dont what you guys dont understand about numbers not being the be all end all.

Ok since you refuse to answer a very simple question, let's try a different angle: Would you agree with the notion that Player A can be more Valuable than Player B even though Player B has much better stats?

[ripper76]

Hm, I dont recall saying that. What I do recall saying is that looking at box scores is frowned upon

Great... now how about staying on topic and answering the question.

I dont what you guys dont understand about numbers not being the be all end all.

It's all about whatever advances the agenda at the moment. The criteria and the goal posts will be moved frequently depending on what argument the drunken OP is trying to make at the time.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Great... now how about staying on topic and answering the question.

I dont what you guys dont understand about numbers not being the be all end all.

It's all about whatever advances the agenda at the moment. The criteria and the goal posts will be moved frequently depending on what argument the drunken OP is trying to make at the time.

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

[thedangerouskitchen]

I can't wait till the agenda is revealed.

Waiting with anticipation.

There is NO agenda... read the OP again.

[ripper76]

I dont what you guys dont understand about numbers not being the be all end all.

It's all about whatever advances the agenda at the moment. The criteria and the goal posts will be moved frequently depending on what argument the drunken OP is trying to make at the time.

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

[thedangerouskitchen]

It's all about whatever advances the agenda at the moment. The criteria and the goal posts will be moved frequently depending on what argument the drunken OP is trying to make at the time.

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

[ripper76]

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

A lot of people do that.

People get tired of your weak trolling real quick. You haven't had any new material in years. That's why you were banished from the NBA forum at sportshoopla to the "Fouled Out" section, created especially for you.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/foul ... d-out.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That humiliation must have been why you tried to sneak into the last board as "number1lebronfan."

[Repeat3peat]

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

[Havlicekstealsit]

Guess I'll play along. If we're just going by the data given, player B. Making the right passes, strong on the offensive glass, and keeps opponents in check.

[TheStig]

I thought you didn't read the OP, slipper...?

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

He can't help himself. Says he doesn't care but follows you everywhere you go.

[thedangerouskitchen]

Are you talking to me? I didn't read the OP. I've read enough of them to know that you recycle the same tired troll techniques time after time after time. I know exactly what all your threads consist of just by seeing the title. I read and responded to wailua's post.

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

A lot of people do that.

People get tired of your weak trolling real quick. You haven't had any new material in years. That's why you were banished from the NBA forum at sportshoopla to the "Fouled Out" section, created especially for you.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/foul ... d-out.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That humiliation must have been why you tried to sneak into the last board as "number1lebronfan."

I thought you weren't reading my posts, dripper?

Whoooopsie...!!

[ripper76]

Sure... you skipped my posts and read someone's replies to my posts.

ROFL

Whatever you say, flipper...

A lot of people do that.

People get tired of your weak trolling real quick. You haven't had any new material in years. That's why you were banished from the NBA forum at sportshoopla to the "Fouled Out" section, created especially for you.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/foul ... d-out.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That humiliation must have been why you tried to sneak into the last board as "number1lebronfan."

I thought you weren't reading my posts, dripper?

Whoooopsie...!!

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