is there a better final performance in sports history than this?

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Yes i think winning as your teams worst player is better
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25%
no.. scoring a league high 60 and a game winner is untouchable
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75%
 
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vcsgrizzfan wrote:
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elmouse03 wrote:
Only their best defensive player and rebounder and probably it's 2nd best assist guy at the time.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 50LAL.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

i dont care if he played solid defense. the guy was last on his team in scoring for game 7

havlicek 26 points
jones 24 points
bryant 20 points
nelson 16 points
howell 9 points
siegfried 7 points
russell 6 points
He finished 7th in MVP voting that season, his lowest of his career (as voted by the players by the way) but by far the best of any Celtic and made Wilt 1-7 against him for his career in the playoffs.

After he retired, the Celtics gave up ten points more per game (after having the best defensive rating in the NBA, which happened 12 of Russell's 13 seasons) and went from championship to lottery. Russell was always the best player on his team, including the two collegiate championship years at USF that wasn't even on the map before him.

there was like 10 teams

finishing 7th in mvp voting would be like finishing 25th today

and i said "last performance" i.e. game... not last season

russell was subpar in game 7... 6 points is 4 under his season average.


sure he played good defense. but wilt wasn't even trying to score



and think of it this way.. 20 rebounds in the 60s is like 12 rebounds today

while 60 points today is like scoring 100 back then
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Kennethgriffin wrote:
vcsgrizzfan wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 50LAL.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

i dont care if he played solid defense. the guy was last on his team in scoring for game 7

havlicek 26 points
jones 24 points
bryant 20 points
nelson 16 points
howell 9 points
siegfried 7 points
russell 6 points
He finished 7th in MVP voting that season, his lowest of his career (as voted by the players by the way) but by far the best of any Celtic and made Wilt 1-7 against him for his career in the playoffs.

After he retired, the Celtics gave up ten points more per game (after having the best defensive rating in the NBA, which happened 12 of Russell's 13 seasons) and went from championship to lottery. Russell was always the best player on his team, including the two collegiate championship years at USF that wasn't even on the map before him.

there was like 10 teams

finishing 7th in mvp voting would be like finishing 25th today

and i said "last performance" i.e. game... not last season

and russell was subpar in game 7... 6 points is 4 under his season average.


and sure he played good defense. but wilt wasn't even trying to score
you're a very poor troll. You were served your humble pie. Now time for you to scoot. You've had your history lesson for today.
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vcsgrizzfan wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
vcsgrizzfan wrote:
He finished 7th in MVP voting that season, his lowest of his career (as voted by the players by the way) but by far the best of any Celtic and made Wilt 1-7 against him for his career in the playoffs.

After he retired, the Celtics gave up ten points more per game (after having the best defensive rating in the NBA, which happened 12 of Russell's 13 seasons) and went from championship to lottery. Russell was always the best player on his team, including the two collegiate championship years at USF that wasn't even on the map before him.

there was like 10 teams

finishing 7th in mvp voting would be like finishing 25th today

and i said "last performance" i.e. game... not last season

and russell was subpar in game 7... 6 points is 4 under his season average.


and sure he played good defense. but wilt wasn't even trying to score
you're a very poor troll. You were served your humble pie. Now time for you to scoot. You've had your history lesson for today.

only on angergeneral would someone say 6 points in 1969 > 60 points in 2016 due to rebounds/defense

gtfo old man lol
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id say 1 rebound is worth 1 point in todays nba due to teams shooting 50% and over as a whole

and 1 rebound in 1969 was worth about 0.7 points in the 60's due to lesser fg%


and 1 assist = 2 points


kobes 60 points, 4 assists and 4 rebounds = 72 points (60+8+4)

russells 6 points, 6 assists and 21 rebounds = 32.7 points (6+12+14.7)
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Kennethgriffin wrote:id say 1 rebound 1 point in todays nba due to teams shooting 50% and over as a whole

and 1 rebound in 1969 was worth about 0.7 points in the 60's due to lesser fg%


and 1 assist = 2 points


kobes 60 points, 4 assists and 4 rebounds = 72 points (60+8+4)

russells 6 points, 6 assists and 21 rebounds = 32.7 points (6+12+14.7)


i doubt grizz will be back to comment on my last post.. dude got BTFO hard
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Please luv my kobe
You never liked me, probably don't like me still, but a ***** liking me aint never paid my bills
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Kennethgriffin wrote:
Havlicekstealsit wrote:Ted Williams hit a home run in his final at bat. He was 41 years old.

37 year old kobe was in worse shape in a much more physically demanding sport and 40 year olds have hit 30+ homeruns in their final year

60 point games happen once in a career for most legends ( if theyre lucky to even get there ). its larry birds career high for god sake lol

1 off of lebrons

and before anyone knocks the shot attempts it was 44% and a few shots off of 50%

plus if he takes 1 less shot they lose
But Bird's opposition was actually, you know...... playing defense against him. Trying to stop him from scoring.

It was just the opposite for Kobe. 90% of his shots went uncontested.
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Kennethgriffin wrote:id say 1 rebound is worth half a point. in todays nba due to teams shooting 50% and over as a whole

and 1 rebound in 1969 was worth about 0.7 points in the 60's due to lesser fg%


and 1 assist = 2 points


kobes 60 points, 4 assists and 4 rebounds = 72 points (60+8+4)

russells 6 points, 6 assists and 21 rebounds = 32.7 points (6+12+14.7)

I concur with everything presented in this post
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Jims_Doors wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
Havlicekstealsit wrote:Ted Williams hit a home run in his final at bat. He was 41 years old.

37 year old kobe was in worse shape in a much more physically demanding sport and 40 year olds have hit 30+ homeruns in their final year

60 point games happen once in a career for most legends ( if theyre lucky to even get there ). its larry birds career high for god sake lol

1 off of lebrons

and before anyone knocks the shot attempts it was 44% and a few shots off of 50%

plus if he takes 1 less shot they lose
But Bird's opposition was actually, you know...... playing defense against him. Trying to stop him from scoring.

It was just the opposite for Kobe. 90% of his shots went uncontested.


80s defense was non existent aside from the pistons and celtics... and bird didn't face detroit or himself when he dropped 60
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For a guy playing on one Achilles, in his 20th season, who had unproven rookies and cast offs for teammates, being able to turn back the clock one last time and put on a vintage 60pt performance for his last game was pure magic. I know the Kobe haters will disagree and I know Griff has a tendency to annoy people, but he's right in this case.
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Kennethgriffin wrote:id say 1 rebound is worth 1 point in todays nba due to teams shooting 50% and over as a whole

and 1 rebound in 1969 was worth about 0.7 points in the 60's due to lesser fg%


and 1 assist = 2 points


kobes 60 points, 4 assists and 4 rebounds = 72 points (60+8+4)

russells 6 points, 6 assists and 21 rebounds = 32.7 points (6+12+14.7)
Well, this ends the argument guys. How can you argue with this system?
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