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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Madnessssss wrote:MVPs are worthless, but Lebron surpassed Kobe by beating a 73 win team in the finals.

In doing so, he also proved why MVPs are worthless

Yeah, but Kobe beat the Nets, 76ers and Magic!

That's a murderer's row right there.

that 73 win warriors team would get buttfucked by the 2000-2002 blazers, spurs, kings etc...

the real finals was always in the west during those years
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rileymartin wrote:Honest truth, Larry Bird is the greatest ever, especially considering the fact that he pretty much singlehandedly saved the NBA from extinction...The only player who you could argue for above Bird is Jordan, though he falls short...
Everyone else after those two...LeBron has ascended up this list at a rapid pace...
What saved the NBA was Stern implementing drug tests & to a lesser extent, a salary cap.
Sorry man, that is revisionist history...the cold hard truth is, Bird brought white people and Corporate America back to the game...
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Even Kobe is disgusted by this thread.
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Kennethgriffin wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Madnessssss wrote:MVPs are worthless, but Lebron surpassed Kobe by beating a 73 win team in the finals.

In doing so, he also proved why MVPs are worthless

Yeah, but Kobe beat the Nets, 76ers and Magic!

That's a murderer's row right there.

that 73 win warriors team would get buttfucked by the 2000-2002 blazers, spurs, kings etc...

the real finals was always in the west during those years

My bad. I forgot just how good the 2001 Spurs were.

After all, Derek Anderson was the team's 2nd leading scorer. And Antonio Daniels was the 4th leading scorer at 9.4 ppg. Danny Ferry was a starter in the playoffs.

DOMINANT indeed.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Yeah, but Kobe beat the Nets, 76ers and Magic!

That's a murderer's row right there.

that 73 win warriors team would get buttfucked by the 2000-2002 blazers, spurs, kings etc...

the real finals was always in the west during those years

My bad. I forgot just how good the 2001 Spurs were.

After all, Derek Anderson was the team's 2nd leading scorer. And Antonio Daniels was the 4th leading scorer at 9.4 ppg. Danny Ferry was a starter in the playoffs.

DOMINANT indeed.

they were built on defense

do you forget how good robinson still was?

2001 spurs were #1 in defensive rating for the entire league
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Kennethgriffin wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:

that 73 win warriors team would get buttfucked by the 2000-2002 blazers, spurs, kings etc...

the real finals was always in the west during those years

My bad. I forgot just how good the 2001 Spurs were.

After all, Derek Anderson was the team's 2nd leading scorer. And Antonio Daniels was the 4th leading scorer at 9.4 ppg. Danny Ferry was a starter in the playoffs.

DOMINANT indeed.

they were built on defense

do you forget how good robinson still was?

34-year old Danny Ferry was a defensive monster for sure! Only surpassed by the 37 year old Terry Porter, 35 year old Avery Johnson and 35 year old Steve Kerr.

Antonio Daniels played about as much as the 35 year old David Robinson did. Malik Rose and Samaki Walker played 22+ minutes per game in the playoffs.

DOMINANT!
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And then there was one...griff might be the last kobe kid left from espn gen who still thinks he's better than LeGoat.
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Madnessssss wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:
Madnessssss wrote:MVPs are worthless, but Lebron surpassed Kobe by beating a 73 win team in the finals.

In doing so, he also proved why MVPs are worthless actually
Damn. I knew you jumped ship on the Lakers wagon long ago but the bolded is still surprising.
Kobe is top 6 all time. Nothing to be ashamed of. I've always been a realist

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about right.

mj
kareem
lebron
magic
wilt
russell

who do you have kobe above out of those guys, magic?
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lmao, retarded as riley, wow.
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vegasfraud wrote:And then there was one...griff might be the last kobe kid left from espn gen who still thinks he's better than LeGoat.

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/ ... ael-jordan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:

My bad. I forgot just how good the 2001 Spurs were.

After all, Derek Anderson was the team's 2nd leading scorer. And Antonio Daniels was the 4th leading scorer at 9.4 ppg. Danny Ferry was a starter in the playoffs.

DOMINANT indeed.

they were built on defense

do you forget how good robinson still was?

34-year old Danny Ferry was a defensive monster for sure! Only surpassed by the 37 year old Terry Porter, 35 year old Avery Johnson and 35 year old Steve Kerr.

Antonio Daniels played about as much as the 35 year old David Robinson did. Malik Rose and Samaki Walker played 22+ minutes per game in the playoffs.

DOMINANT!

they were the #1 defensive team in the nba ( #1 defensive rating )

so what exactly are you trying to do... your best stephen a smith impressions? where you say 1 name in an odd way to insult an entire roster?



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Madnessssss wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:
Madnessssss wrote: Kobe is top 6 all time. Nothing to be ashamed of. I've always been a realist

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about right.

mj
kareem
lebron
magic
wilt
russell

who do you have kobe above out of those guys, magic?
Wilt and magic by a cunt hair.

Wilt was a different player in the playoffs. Not in a good way

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lol. i used to have kobe 6th or 7th right there with bird but i think lebron and duncan both passed them the last couple years. now i have him 8th or 9th. in order.

mj
kareem
lebron
magic
wilt
russell
duncan
kobe
bird
idk

actually, idk about duncan and kobe really. kobe had the better peak. duncan had the better longevity but he also had more stability around him. it's close. after the top 3 i think it's hard now. used to be and top 6 was easy with mj, kareem, magic, bird, russell, and wilt. then kobe moved up, then td, then lebron. now it's tough.
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Madnessssss wrote:MVPs are worthless, but Lebron surpassed Kobe by beating a 73 win team in the finals.

In doing so, he also proved why MVPs are worthless actually
:lol: It happened well before that. LeBron has pretty much been considered first option/captain on his teams outside of maybe his rookie year and definitely 2011 with the Heat

Kobe, as first option/captain on the Lakers, had a pretty quiet career outside of 3yrs when LA went to the Finals. Even then he only played well in 1 of 3.
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vegasfraud wrote:
Madnessssss wrote:
vegasfraud wrote: about right.

mj
kareem
lebron
magic
wilt
russell

who do you have kobe above out of those guys, magic?
Wilt and magic by a cunt hair.

Wilt was a different player in the playoffs. Not in a good way

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lol. i used to have kobe 6th or 7th right there with bird but i think lebron and duncan both passed them the last couple years. now i have him 8th or 9th. in order.

mj
kareem
lebron
magic
wilt
russell
duncan
kobe
bird
idk

pau gasol should be pretty high on your list pretty soon too if the spurs win a title this year seeing as how you pay no attention to how big a role anyone has
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you were better off just saying 81 and leaving out whatever other filler you typed.
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Jims_Doors wrote:
Madnessssss wrote:MVPs are worthless, but Lebron surpassed Kobe by beating a 73 win team in the finals.

In doing so, he also proved why MVPs are worthless actually
:lol: It happened well before that. LeBron has pretty much been considered first option/captain on his teams outside of maybe his rookie year and definitely 2011 with the Heat

Kobe, as first option/captain on the Lakers, had a pretty quiet career outside of 3yrs when LA went to the Finals. Even then he only played well in 1 of 3.

does anyone even read polls anymore


this is general knowledge personified. the same criteria as jordans goat candidacy

majority rules

you can personally say you think lebron lebron passed kobe. but you can't talk about it as fact if more people disagree with you than agree with you on that subject



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this poll was done AFTER the finals.... even with lebrons hype at an all time high


ON LESPN.. his home network


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elmerjfudd wrote:you were better off just saying 81 and leaving out whatever other filler you typed.

fuck 81.. kobe basically matched lebrons career high on his last day on the job just cause shaq asked him to

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Kennethgriffin wrote:
elmerjfudd wrote:you were better off just saying 81 and leaving out whatever other filler you typed.

fuck 81.. kobe basically matched lebrons career high on his last day on the job just cause shaq asked him to

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Kennethgriffin wrote:
vegasfraud wrote:And then there was one...griff might be the last kobe kid left from espn gen who still thinks he's better than LeGoat.

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/ ... ael-jordan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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All-Time #NBArank 5: Wilt Chamberlain

All-Time #NBArank 4: Magic Johnson

All-Time #NBArank 3: LeBron James

All-Time #NBArank 2: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

All-Time #NBArank 1: Michael Jordan
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Robceltsfan wrote:
Kennethgriffin wrote:
elmerjfudd wrote:you were better off just saying 81 and leaving out whatever other filler you typed.

fuck 81.. kobe basically matched lebrons career high on his last day on the job just cause shaq asked him to

:lol:
60 on 50 shots........what an accomplishment!

it is if had he taken 49. they lose ... since he hit the game winning go ahead jumper in the last 30 seconds or so



and thats 44% fg's.. ???? 1% off his career average? lol


he was 22 for 50

atleast 10 or so were in and out... he hits 3 more and its 50%
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